Whose 49-0 is truly greater? Mayweather or Marciano?

[IronDanHamza]

I'm usually with you on things but I don't see any flaws at all with ELO, if anything it's a revolutionary way of ranking and should be taken as seriously as possible.

The numbers on the left are Archie's ELO, the ones on the right are his opponents:


I think we can all agree here, Clinton Bacon >> Harold Johnson.
Men lie, Women lie, Numbers don't.

What's Eder Jofre's ELO?

Lower than Fighting Harada's surely?

[DannyNL]

Well age is just a number anyway. Everyone ages different.

Bernard Hopkins was still a top fighter at age 40 whereas Wilfred Benitez was shot before 30.

Everyone's different.

100% true. A lot is genetics, but science plays a big part.

[NChristo]

Someone try and make sense of this please.

[elfag]

Marciano died in a plane crash 14 years after he retired. What are you talking about?

lol busted. most of these people talking up marciano never even watched his fights OR even read his damn wikipedia page.

[b00g13man]

Marciano died in a plane crash 14 years after he retired. What are you talking about?

Whoa!!! Can't believe I missed that in the post. WTF?

[Avenge Myself]

lol busted. most of these people talking up marciano never even watched his fights OR even read his damn wikipedia page.

And most people dismissing Marciano have no clue of boxing history or how greatness is defined.

Fact: Rocky's KO win over old Joe Louis > Floyd's win over past prime Manny Pacquiao who has already been KTFO6 by Jmm.

Fact: Rocky beat all time great heavyweights, you can say they were past it but so were Oscar, Mosley, etc.

Fact: Rocky was a real man, Floyd was an IV drug cheat and a coward.

Fact: Heavyweight > Welterweight. We remember the Alis, Tysons, Louises, and Marcianos. Who the fk is gonna remember little Floydie 50 years from now?

[b00g13man]

And most people dismissing Marciano have no clue of boxing history or how greatness is defined.

Fact: Rocky's KO win over old Joe Louis > Floyd's win over past prime Manny Pacquiao who has already been KTFO6 by Jmm.

Fact: Rocky beat all time great heavyweights, you can say they were past it but so were Oscar, Mosley, etc.

Fact: Rocky was a real man, Floyd was an IV drug cheat and a coward.

Fact: Heavyweight > Welterweight.

Loooooooool. Is that the smell of a saline drip?

[Avenge Myself]

Loooooooool. Is that the smell of a saline drip?

Ask your hero Fraud Armstrong Jr.

[!! Shawn]

What is ELO and why are you acting like it means something?

Boxrec has Mayweather at #7 all time so what's his ELO?

Marciano is #19 so doesn't that mean that he has more ELO than him?

So doesn't that mean Mayweather>>>Marciano according to your backwards line of thinking?

So what are you even arguing?

Im not arguing Marciano is greater than Mayweather. p4p all time, Mayweather is greater than Marciano, owing to his longevity, and longer championship career.

Marciano beat the far more impressive opposition though.

2 of his opponents are ranked higher than Floyd all time p4p. 1 of them is ranked #1 ahead of Sugar Ray Robinson...

A 3rd is one of the most underrated fighters of all time, in Jersey Joe Walcott, who should have had a win over Joe Louis, and Knocked out #4 p4p all time Ezzard Charles with one of the craftiest moves of all time.

Lets not forget that Moore, the #1 p4p of all time by boxrec, was the last fight of Marciano's career.

That would be like Floyd finishing off his career facing Roberto Duran from the first fight against Leonard.

But unfortunately, Floyd doesn't even have a single win approaching that quality in his entire career.

[b00g13man]

Ask your hero Fraud Armstrong Jr.

Ah, looks like I was wrong. It's just salty tears.