Comments Thread For: Team Golovkin Will Want More Than 50% From Ward

[kafkod]

Yep, go for it..... this will be good

My guess is..... Golovkin will flatly refuse to discuss a catchweight, knowing that Cotto/Canelo will be stripped, leaving him to fight {insert name here} for a vacant title.

I believe that Golovkin will turn down that HUGE payday in favor of an easier fight.

And if so, you and he will share the same barbeque.....

Well, the scenario you gave me was that the winner of Cotto/Canelo offered GGG a CW - because they couldn't demand it - and Golovkin turned it down.

But GGG might well accept a CW, if he was offered good money for it.

You won't know about this, of course, but Golovkin just weighed in lighter than Canelo did for his last two 30 day weight checks, and is naturally the smaller of the two men. Still a MW doe.

But whatever, if GGG turns down a CW, then whoever is holding the WBC belt will have to either defend it against him at 160, or vacate the title.

[aboutfkntime]

What's your point idiot? Weren't you hoping the winner ducks him?

Uh..... no ?

I want Golovkin to step up and fight...... at 155.

If he aint gonna step up to Ward, he can at least fight a world-class - albiet smaller - opponent.

The thing is..... 1) Golovkin knows that Cotto and Canelo are not genuine middleweights..... 2) Golovkin demanded a catchweight from Ward, and he justified that demand by insisting that he is the A-side..... 3) Golovkin knows that Cotto, and probably Canelo, will not fight him without a catchweight

No, I want to see the fight, but I doubt that will happen unfortunately.

If Golovkin agrees to a reasonable catchweight, no problem.

Lower than 155 is unreasonable.

[HeroBando]

Uh..... no ?

I want Golovkin to step up and fight...... at 155.

If he aint gonna step up to Ward, he can at least fight a world-class - albiet smaller - opponent.

The thing is..... 1) Golovkin knows that Cotto and Canelo are not genuine middleweights..... 2) Golovkin demanded a catchweight from Ward, and he justified that demand by insisting that he is the A-side..... 3) Golovkin knows that Cotto, and probably Canelo, will not fight him without a catchweight

No, I want to see the fight, but I doubt that will happen unfortunately.

If Golovkin agrees to a reasonable catchweight, no problem.

Lower than 155 is unreasonable.

Yeah I know, you're a catch weight lover. Why are you repeating all those discredited points though? Oh right, dumb as a rock. Mando, idiot

[SugarRaRobinson]

Ward waited till GGG had signed to fight Lemieux then sent Loeffler an offer to fight Golovkin ... in 18 months time. It was a bull**** PR stunt by Ward and Loeffler treated it with the contempt it deserved.

Now it seems like Ward has, at last, admitted that he can't make 168 any more and is going to be fighting at LHW from now on.

So who was using who's name for publicity, and how long are you going to wait for Andre to fight Kovalev before you start calling him a coward?

Your a PH.D. Spin Doctor . Your well aware that this ggg/Ward thing has been fermenting WAY before Lemieux was even thought of , so stop the shenanigans . Furthermore , if Ward couldn't make 168 , he wouldn't have been attempting to cash in gggs wolf ticket in ever since he got with RN, at 168 .This ggg Pro-Bono work obviously has long hours and dangerous sleep deprivation levels attached to it because u guys seem to be conveniently forgetting all the most important facts of this débâcle . And stop pretending like u really believe that Ward is pulling publicity stunts , cause if u really believed that you'd beg ggg to call his bluff .

[aboutfkntime]

Well, the scenario you gave me was that the winner of Cotto/Canelo offered GGG a CW - because they couldn't demand it - and Golovkin turned it down.

Ummm..... ?

They will demand/offer him a catchweight, and Golovkin will either a) do whatever he is told, or b) he will proceed to kick rocks

You are dreaming if you think either will fight him at 160.

BOTH have stated that they will not give him a catchweight, and BOTH are GENUINE A-side fighters. Golovkin will do whatever he is told.

But GGG might well accept a CW, if he was offered good money for it.

He will have to, he will simply have no choice.

And of course Golovkin will be offered good money, both Cotto/Canelo are GENUINE A-side fighters, unlike him.

if GGG turns down a CW, then whoever is holding the WBC belt will have to either defend it against him at 160, or vacate the title.

And if they dont, will you stand by your earlier statement..... ?

Any boxer who publicly called out a smaller man.....then refused to even discuss a CW, would be viewed as a cherry picking coward.....

..... or not ?

The fact that Team Golovkin have already flatly refused a catchweight for Cotto/Canelo must make you sweat a little..... I get your earlier point about leverage, but with no official confirmation on that, and considering the fact that Golovkin has no leverage whatsoever..... I dont think that is the case here.

If so, maybe I wont barbeque you both..... maybe I will just write a diplomatic post confirming that Golovkin is obviously subject to the exact same risk/reward as everyone else, and then ask you to co-sign it ..... or, maybe I will fire up the barbeque, who knows

[aboutfkntime]

Yeah I know, you're a catch weight lover. Why are you repeating all those discredited points though? Oh right, dumb as a rock. Mando, idiot

The bold proves what a dishonest pos you are

My position regarding catchweights is well-documented.

And regarding the rest of your rubbish.....

" Miguel Cotto will do whatever is best for Miguel Cotto ".

[aboutfkntime]

Your a PH.D. Spin Doctor . Your well aware that this ggg/Ward thing has been fermenting WAY before Lemieux was even thought of , so stop the shenanigans . Furthermore , if Ward couldn't make 168 , he wouldn't have been attempting to cash in gggs wolf ticket in ever since he got with RN, at 168 .This ggg Pro-Bono work obviously has long hours and dangerous sleep deprivation levels attached to it because u guys seem to be conveniently forgetting all the most important facts of this débâcle . And stop pretending like u really believe that Ward is pulling publicity stunts , cause if u really believed that you'd beg ggg to call his bluff .

The fkn BOLDDDDDD

Smart post !

If they thought that Ward was bluffing, or they thought that Golovkin could beat Ward..... they would be screaming for Gennady to call his bluff.

They know that Ward is not bluffing, and they know what happens if that fight gets made.

[theface07]

I find it funny how people criticize Golovkin for not jumping at the chance to move up in weight to fight Ward before he's cleaned out the MW division when it took Floyd until virtually the end of his career to finally agree to fight Manny and they're in the same weight class!

[kafkod]

Your a PH.D. Spin Doctor . Your well aware that this ggg/Ward thing has been fermenting WAY before Lemieux was even thought of , so stop the shenanigans . Furthermore , if Ward couldn't make 168 , he wouldn't have been attempting to cash in gggs wolf ticket in ever since he got with RN, at 168 .This ggg Pro-Bono work obviously has long hours and dangerous sleep deprivation levels attached to it because u guys seem to be conveniently forgetting all the most important facts of this débâcle . And stop pretending like u really believe that Ward is pulling publicity stunts , cause if u really believed that you'd beg ggg to call his bluff .

Ward didn't send Loeffler an offer till GGG had already signed to fight Lemieux.

The offer he did send was to fight Golovkin in 12/18 months time.

Ward had already fought at LHW once when he sent that offer, and is looking for another easy fight at LHW for the Cotto/Canelo undercard.

Those are the facts, and one of the reasons you and your half-witted buddies spend so much time trying to discredit GGG is because you don't want to face them.

[kafkod]

I find it funny how people criticize Golovkin for not jumping at the chance to move up in weight to fight Ward before he's cleaned out the MW division when it took Floyd until virtually the end of his career to finally agree to fight Manny and they're in the same weight class!

It's certainly funny how people criticise GGG for not moving up for Ward immediately, but don't criticise Ward for not fighting Kovalev immediately, even though Ward is now in Kovalev's division.