Comments Thread For: Nacho: I Celebrate That Floyd Mayweather is Gone

[Deevel916]

Nacho doesn't like his style of fighting (the older version of Floyd that is) but he respects his skills/intelligence, nothing wrong with what he said. I think what really drives people nuts is that Floyd is leaving this sport without a loss or brutal war.

I dont think it has to do with either.

At the end of the day this is a combat sport. Floyd had the ability to close the show against several opponents but chose to play it safe with a points victory. It works for him but it does nothing for the paying fans or the sport itself. When Floyd fought, all you would hear after the fights from the masses is how boring it was and/or how he fought like a bit*h. Even SRL commented during one of Floyd's fights. Something along the lines of..."you must close the show if you're dominating your opponent. Give something back to the paying fans". Floyd truly didn't care about the fans.

[Deevel916]

If you think Pacquiao was exposed and taken apart, please show the devastating fight highlight reel that shows this? For every half-decent Floyd punch (and most of them were glancing) I can show a hard shot landed by Manny. That's not taken apart and exposed.

Floyd edged rounds and got given a generous margin of victory based largely on perception. It was a very close fight in reality. Mayweather's offense was largely pitiful. He got given credit for the pace of the fight and defense; Pacquiao got given no credit whatsoever for his defense when Floyd could barely land a solid blow.

It's as if judges use a different scoring criteria when Floyd fights. Points for evasion and killing the action.

Floyd isn't a fighter. He's a nulifyer. He focuses 100% on preventing his opponent from hurting him while throwing pity pat scoring shots in return. Whether you're a fan of Floyd or not, you have to see that he gets points and credit for things other fighters wouldn't normally get from judges.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

I don't find Floyd boring, and I don't disagree that he is a master boxer, nor that his skills were on display for all to see against Pacquiao - as was his anxiety.

Here's the thing; you give Floyd total credit for "shutting down to a peep" of Pacquiao. The reality is that Pacquiao had become more conservative way before he fought Mayweather, considering he threw over a thousand punches against the likes of Margarito and Clottey (may not have been a thousand, but close to). Against Algieri it was just 669 punches.

Was Floyd more than one step ahead of Manny? Depends in what regard you consider "being a step ahead" to be. Yes, he was almost always moving away from Manny. However, offensively, who landed the better shots? It is hard to argue Mayweather landed anything on Pacquiao that compared to the shots that rocked Floyd in the middle rounds. Pacquiao seemed to think that was enough to win him the fight, but he wasn't getting credit in the quiet rounds - many of which were really 50/50 and not the "domination" showed by the total farce AKA compubox. Floyd was poking his jab out at times, but racking up "numbers" when there was nothing on it. Pacquiao was throwing body shots, which Floyd notably didn't, none of which seemed to get counted.

Take away Lampley's "LEAD RIGHT BY FLOYD!" (but actually blocked by Pacquiao) hype style commentary, take away the two interns mashing buttons for compubox, and take away the crowd who were cheering air punches by Pacquiao but not appreciating his actual good work on the inside, and it comes across very differently.

Pacquiao had to fight more tactically. He needed to get in range with his left hand without throwing a right hook because that was risking hurting his shoulder more. The only way to do that was to draw the lead right by Floyd and counter it - which Pacquiao did a number of times successfully. Had he just charged forward Victor Ortiz style, Mayweather would have lapped it up.

Anyway, it's all said and done, all finished and over with, and Floyd won. Pacquiao should have postponed the fight if his rotator cuff was that badly hurt, and that's not Floyd's fault. (I'll leave the IV controversy out of it, as shady as it is.)

Him throwing more punches against Margarito and Clottey has more to do with them being stationary targets, Clottey stood there with the high guard all night and wasn't doing anything, it was very weird cuz everytime he let his hands go he landed good shots but 80% of the time he was standing there not doing anything, Margarito tried a bit early and landed some shots but then he just stopped and became a stationary target too.

Ur theory is wrong cuz Pacquiao threw 800 punches against Rios and 750 against Bradley, which are very good numbers since Bradley is not a stationary guy and this was after the KO loss, Algieri moved and tried to survive for a portion of the fight and Pacquiao still managed to throw almost 700 punches, which are very good numbers.

Floyd has given the 2 worst performances of his career against Maidana 1 year earlier, so Floyd has shown some declination also and even against Berto I saw a lot of decline.

[yoshik]

If you think Pacquiao was exposed and taken apart, please show the devastating fight highlight reel that shows this? For every half-decent Floyd punch (and most of them were glancing) I can show a hard shot landed by Manny. That's not taken apart and exposed.

Floyd edged rounds and got given a generous margin of victory based largely on perception. It was a very close fight in reality. Mayweather's offense was largely pitiful. He got given credit for the pace of the fight and defense; Pacquiao got given no credit whatsoever for his defense when Floyd could barely land a solid blow.

Excellent. My point as well. We always got to have some black dude living vicariously through Fraud. Like Frauds going to share his wealth with anyone but lawyers. Fraud was a sham. Fl om os are just dreamers trying to sponge off someone they will never be.

[Deevel916]

You only got to understand boxing to see Manny was out classed , he was shut down to a peep no other fighter has controlled Manny in that way he could not do anything , thats ring generalship and it takes a master boxer to do it , this is not baseball bats down the park its professional boxing and science has almost always beaten Braun when it really counts , at the end of the day boxing is a speed sport and Floyd was more than one step ahead of Manny the whole way .

Floyd is boring to the majority of casual fans because his opponents cant force him to stand still and fight , they cant cut him off they cant catch him even when he is right in front of them its like Pazienza said you cant hit him with handful of rice , the few that have forced the fight Floyd stood toe to toe with them and still beat them , give the man the credit for being a great boxer because he surely is .

Preventing a fighter from executing his game plan to an extent isn't "dominating them".

Now if Floyd was able to nullify Pac's offense while dishing out an azz whooping of his own, then I would say "yeah he dominated and shut him down". That's not what happened though. If you look at the fight, it was Pac who landed the harder more effective shots throughout the fight. Floyd on the other hand did land but his punches were glancing or ineffective. Pac was never once hurt in that fight.

According to the way fights are scored you have to give Floyd a slight edge since they score points based on the glove touching the opponents body whether it be a tap or a punch. There wasn't any 1 round that he won in dominating fashion. On the other hand Pac won 5 rounds convincingly and dominated Floyd in 2-3 of those rounds. It was far from the "white wash" or "destruction" that many of you guys make it out to be.

[Kagami Taiga]

Gotta love when ppl who were predicting a pac knockout are whining about how he lost to floyd. Stop being pathetic. It's over already. Floyd is gone. Be happy. The results of the fight won't change no matter how hard u whine or try to change the rules. At the end of the day floyd won and that is what history will know from now on. Moving on...

[neoz]

You only got to understand boxing to see Manny was out classed , he was shut down to a peep no other fighter has controlled Manny in that way he could not do anything , thats ring generalship and it takes a master boxer to do it , this is not baseball bats down the park its professional boxing and science has almost always beaten Braun when it really counts , at the end of the day boxing is a speed sport and Floyd was more than one step ahead of Manny the whole way .

Floyd is boring to the majority of casual fans because his opponents cant force him to stand still and fight , they cant cut him off they cant catch him even when he is right in front of them its like Pazienza said you cant hit him with handful of rice , the few that have forced the fight Floyd stood toe to toe with them and still beat them , give the man the credit for being a great boxer because he surely is .

OUTCLASSED? WTF, go get your eyes checked.

[Dle]

So many would had rather Mayweather go out battered and torn since he made so much money. Why see him spend it in his right mind? It isn't fair..it just isn't fair.

[MEXfistology]

Nacho has made more world champions than roger, floyd sr and Jeff Mayweather combined

[SeekDaGreat]

Yeah, Manny really didn't do ****. Floyd did his usual boring bull****, Manny though came with squat. Lol "#48" that **** be having me dying not for nothing. Listening to Floyd fans you would think Manny got lit like Gatti or something by Floyd. "Taken apart" ha!

Exactly. The difference of some of the rounds were literally 1-2 punches landed in the other direction. Manny was never even buckled, bruised or cut. LMFAO. "He got taken apart doe."

I agree Mayweather won comfortably on points. I think I had it 9-3, 8-4 at best but to say he was taken apart is a flowemoe pipe dream.

If anything Manny landed the cleaner, more meanibful punches. Just not enough to bank the rounds. It was actual less than a typical Floyd win. It was a more cautious Floyd win and nothing special at that. He's always been the superirior athlete/talent and he used that to his advantage, as he should have. No fault for that