Comments Thread For: Nacho: I Celebrate That Floyd Mayweather is Gone

[mneronava2k]

I was a big Floyd fan in the beginning. And, I was unsure he was ducking fighters at first. And his fan base (much like Manny's) are some of the dumbest sports fans ever. But, I hung in there. I was a fan until: his whole stacking the deck in his favor bs. His "A-Side" nonsense (something his fanbase taunts as some sort of skill or acceptable advantage). Coming in overweight (in a catch weight fight) against a guy who jumped up two divisions to fight you, picking the other fighters gloves, even the ref, and now with his testing and rehydrating (which had been rumored within the fight community for years). After all that I had to say "I'm out. I can't root for this guy. Leave the sport, Floyd. You add NOTHING"

[Biolink]

Naaa floyd is good top 30 but he ducked too many fighters in their prime to be considered any better

Right. Because Antonio Margarito and Paul Williams are really the cherry on top and icing on the cake respectively for his resume.

[Don da da]

Excellent. My point as well. We always got to have some black dude living vicariously through Fraud. Like Frauds going to share his wealth with anyone but lawyers. Fraud was a sham. Fl om os are just dreamers trying to sponge off someone they will never be.

Racist. Call them out.

[Fetta]

So am i.

Shakes up the sport. All the number 2/3's out there see the oppurtunity to be 1. Floyd was clear 1 but now its anyones game.

Exciting change

[KingTito]

Nothing wrong with Nacho's assessment here. It's how he personally feels. I certainly respect his opinion more than Floyd's fans.

[AllBoxingAD]

So am i.

Shakes up the sport. All the number 2/3's out there see the oppurtunity to be 1. Floyd was clear 1 but now its anyones game.

Exciting change

Now Ward is the favorite to become number one and has potentionally great matchups to prove it.

[Francis M.]

You only got to understand boxing to see Manny was out classed , he was shut down to a peep no other fighter has controlled Manny in that way he could not do anything , thats ring generalship and it takes a master boxer to do it , this is not baseball bats down the park its professional boxing and science has almost always beaten Braun when it really counts , at the end of the day boxing is a speed sport and Floyd was more than one step ahead of Manny the whole way .

Floyd is boring to the majority of casual fans because his opponents cant force him to stand still and fight , they cant cut him off they cant catch him even when he is right in front of them its like Pazienza said you cant hit him with handful of rice , the few that have forced the fight Floyd stood toe to toe with them and still beat them , give the man the credit for being a great boxer because he surely is .

Pac lost to floyd but the perception of outclassed is plain ******. Floyds output on that fight was low even by floyds own standards

[jwalkr]

Pretty much sums it up.

[sterilizer]

I agree almost 100% with Beristain.

People like Mayweather and Ward do hurt boxing. I agree that the fights are boring (actually even calling those "fights" is utterly ridiculous, the real term is an Olympic-style super-defensive and speculative boxing match).

Where I don't agree is on how much Nacho praises Floyd's so-called "boxing skills." I am tired of people being so politically correct because Mayweather is American, the highest likely source of income in sports today, and they don't want to hurt their chances of any future business dealings with him.

If he and so many other people who state semi-cowardly opinions would say it like it is, that is, that he has really hurt boxing not only because of his cowardly super-defensive and boring style of "fighting" but more than anything, because his money has evidently bought referees in his favor (never ever penalized for blatant excessive clinching, pushing, elbowing, illegal punching, yet his opponents are always warned, reprimanded and intimidated by the referee in turn, because AS A CONSEQUENCE of Floyd starting the cheating and illegal tactics, they start doing illegal stuff themselves, typically low-punching, rabbit punching or pushing him harshly like Maidana did). But Floyd is ALWAYS the starter of the cheating tactics and he never ever gets even a warning from that, guess why? Because he takes care of the referees, the judges, the commentators, the venue (fighting ALWAYS where he wants to fight). And I have the su****ion that he also "takes care" of his opponents, financially, so they fight the worst fight of their lives, in order to have a chance to fight him and become millionaires, so they can assure a nice financial future.

He compares himself with people like Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Sugar Ray Robinson and other greats in boxing who were good defense-wise, but I ask this, which of any of those, or any other greats like Tyson, Haggler, Hearns, Duran and so many others were involved in super-boring fights all the time, where they were the solely ones responsible for making the fight so boring? All of those people acted like men and traded when they had to trade. They frequently had spectacular knock outs. They weren't pickers and did trickery like forcing a lightweight to become a welterweight in a few months as he did with Marquez, and then, to add injury to insult, weigh above the weight limit, pay a fine, and come to fight night way heavier, way leaner and more muscular, way faster and with better reflexes than a poor guy who was naturally much smaller, and at that time way lighter in weight, in much worse shape, AND STILL if you see the fight, being completely unbiased against any of the two fighters, you will see that the only one who threw beautiful and classic 4-5-6-punch combination punches was Marquez and he did it lots of times, but he was so ridiculously small and out of shape that that cowardly Mayweather even laughed at him because he didn't feel much power in his punches. Had he fought the same Hulkquez that busted Pacquiao unconscious, does any one realistically think he would have laughed at his MUCH BETTER punching skills?

Anyways, that Floyd guy is not worth wasting any words. AFAIK he is the very worst thing that has happened to boxing in the whole history of the sport. So good riddance, Nacho is right. But people, say the whole truth, mention how a cheater he always was, not only the fact that his "defensive" (super-cowardly rather) "fighting" style was super-boring. He did tons of illegal stuff in every single major fight he was involved in where he was compromised, yet nobody with a current high-profile in boxing today seems to have the guts to mention that.

[boksingero]

You only got to understand boxing to see Manny was out classed , he was shut down to a peep no other fighter has controlled Manny in that way he could not do anything , thats ring generalship and it takes a master boxer to do it , this is not baseball bats down the park its professional boxing and science has almost always beaten Braun when it really counts , at the end of the day boxing is a speed sport and Floyd was more than one step ahead of Manny the whole way .

Floyd is boring to the majority of casual fans because his opponents cant force him to stand still and fight , they cant cut him off they cant catch him even when he is right in front of them its like Pazienza said you cant hit him with handful of rice , the few that have forced the fight Floyd stood toe to toe with them and still beat them , give the man the credit for being a great boxer because he surely is .

floyd only won rounds 1,5 and 11.. superb defence of pacquiao was totally overlooked in that fight.. pacquiao clearly landed more shots in rounds 2,3,4,6,7,8,10 and 12.. round 9 is close