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  • #31
    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
    Mayweather, Hopkins, Marquez, Wladimir - All pretty much drug-free fighters who stay away from alchohol.
    pretty much drug free?

    hmmm......

    wlad was part of that soviet/ex-soviet olympic athlete system. remember big bro's ped admission? same system.

    marquez seemed clean for most career but then he hooked up with memo.

    hopkins growth hormones, hgh.

    floyd and his IV and TUE.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
      The point of the video is"THERE IS NOTHING COOL ABOUT TAKING PUNISHMENT"
      No **** Larry, they should have thought about that before deciding to fight for a living.
      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
      I don't know where your getting that from
      Lol sure.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
        Less fights??? Ray Leonard only had 40 fights..Flad has almost 70 floyd has almost 50 Jmm has over 60
        Way less fights. Until recently fighting 60-70+ fights was the minimum. SRL was an exception. He was hurt (detached retina) / retired for basically 5 years. And those years were his prime years from about age 25 to 30.

        Very few notable names before the present had less than 50 fights. Dempsey and Marciano were two. Dempsey cause he made tons of money just showing up to crowds and Marciano because he started boxing late and left early due to a bad back. Marciano only fought for about 7-8 yrs.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
          Tyson at 38-knocked out by Danny Williams

          Leonard-at 35-Beat up by Terry Norris..at 40 stopped by Camacho

          Chavez sr at 38 beat up and stopped by Kosta Tzu

          Ali at 38-beat up and stopped by Holmes

          Wlad is 39 still on top

          Mayweather just went out on top at 38

          Jmm was world class at 40
          Less fights, better ways to work out, better nutrition, and better medical care. There's more but those are off the top of my head.

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          • #35
            lol @ people saying PEDs. Most steroids age you prematurely. I think the only one that doesn't is Primobolan which has anti-aging properties but it's not that anabolic at all though perfect for an endurance athlete as it has brilliant muscle sparring properties to it (imagine not losing ANY muscle whilst on a big calorie deficit to make weight).

            Low doses of HGH is also anti-aging and helps burn fat/maintain LBM.

            The fact is humans are just healthier nowadays. We eat better, we have better health care and we're far more health conscious. We're not playing with toys made out of LED anymore like in the 60s for a start.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
              Tyson at 38-knocked out by Danny Williams

              Leonard-at 35-Beat up by Terry Norris..at 40 stopped by Camacho

              Chavez sr at 38 beat up and stopped by Kosta Tzu

              Ali at 38-beat up and stopped by Holmes

              Wlad is 39 still on top

              Mayweather just went out on top at 38

              Jmm was world class at 40
              -Far more effective strength&conditioning/nutrition programs
              -Fighters taking far better care of their bodies as professional fighters (there may be others, but the only top level fighter that I understand to be an open boozer is Tyson Fury, while Tyson/Leonard/Chavez Sr/Ali all abused their bodies while in the sport)

              The modern fighter has figure out how to "put the fire out at both ends of the candle". Keeping the body clean extends your life in the sport, and not taking any real beatings takes less away from you as you continue in the sport.

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              • #37
                Better nutrition and scientific training and evolution , every sport in todays world is better than it was , a matter of fact everything in this world is refined to have better performance .

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
                  No **** Larry, they should have thought about that before deciding to fight for a living.


                  Lol sure.
                  fighting for a living does not mean you have to stand there and get hit man

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
                    Tyson at 38-knocked out by Danny Williams

                    Leonard-at 35-Beat up by Terry Norris..at 40 stopped by Camacho

                    Chavez sr at 38 beat up and stopped by Kosta Tzu

                    Ali at 38-beat up and stopped by Holmes

                    Wlad is 39 still on top

                    Mayweather just went out on top at 38

                    Jmm was world class at 40
                    Well there's a few factors, first the fighters you mentioned (Tyson, Leonard Chavez) were not renowned as clean living athletes! And Ali took a ridiculous amount of punishment during sparring!

                    Secondly Athletes of today have better nutrition and take care of themselves better out of camp!

                    Thirdly I'm sure PEDs have a big factor in boxers recovery periods between fights!


                    But you also have to take into account, boxers these days do not fight as often as fighters from the past!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by bklynboy View Post
                      Way less fights. Until recently fighting 60-70+ fights was the minimum. SRL was an exception. He was hurt (detached retina) / retired for basically 5 years. And those years were his prime years from about age 25 to 30.

                      Very few notable names before the present had less than 50 fights. Dempsey and Marciano were two. Dempsey cause he made tons of money just showing up to crowds and Marciano because he started boxing late and left early due to a bad back. Marciano only fought for about 7-8 yrs.
                      Ehh Jack Dempsey had nearly 85 documented fights! Apparently he had about 20-30 more undocumented fights under the name Kid Blackie as a kid

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