In terms of actual wins, who has the better resume - DLH or Floyd?

[mezoomozaa]

I say Oscar De La Hoya.

[Kagami Taiga]

If you're going to do the whole arguably lost argument then you have to include the arguably beat Trinidad, Mosley II.

Lol we can go all day talking about who he arguably lost to and beat because that's Oscar's resume in a nutshell. Which is why he's not greater than floyd. Only true controversial decision floyd has is Castillo, a fighter he beat clearly the 2nd time around.

[SplitSecond]

Lol we can go all day talking about who he arguably lost to and beat because that's Oscar's resume in a nutshell. Which is why he's not greater than floyd. Only true controversial decision floyd has is Castillo, a fighter he beat clearly the 2nd time around.

Oscar's competition is alot better than Floyds, so obviously it's not that simple. Besides, Mayweather arguably didn't beat Castillo or Maidana which don't really stack up to Trinidad, Roidsley(although I think he sucks, still better) etc.

[Kagami Taiga]

Oscar's competition is alot better than Floyds, so obviously it's not that simple. Besides, Mayweather arguably didn't beat Castillo or Maidana which don't really stack up to Trinidad, Roidsley(although I think he sucks, still better) etc.

Mayweather did beat castillo. Smh. He fought him twice. And there's nothing arguable about the Maidana fight. Very fee ppl think floyd lost that fight. Ppl bring it up why? Because it suits their agendas I guess. And Oscar's competition being better doesn't mean anything if he doesn't win. And typically speaking he didn't win against his top level competition.

[redmyth79]

I have to go with Oscar. His lose he had with Tito was BS,
His 2nd fight with Mosley he won clearly out landing him by 120 punches and Shane was on the juice.
Hell he was beating Hopkins till he was knocked out.
Oscar fought the best when they were there best. Not waiting 5 years to fight pac,
And to be honest, Oscar was the champ when Floyd fought him. U have to beat the champ convincingly to be the winner, SD. Not a clear win.

[Zaroku]

I think Oscar ERA was better for sure so I will give DLH that, however when rating them as ATG? Mayweather will always be rated much higher than Oscar no disrespect to Oscar but your bragging about a Resume in which of the big fights he either flat out lost or needed controversial decisions to win them

Yeah he fought Trinidad, B-Hop, Mosley in his Prime but you cannot leave out the fact that he LOST all of them (looking back he was Robbed vs Trinidad though to be fair). Just Saying!

Sugar Ray Robinson! Julio. Chavez sr,
Both better than DLH or Floyd! The actual comparison makes DLH & Floyd look bad.

[SplitSecond]

Mayweather did beat castillo. Smh. He fought him twice. And there's nothing arguable about the Maidana fight. Very fee ppl think floyd lost that fight. Ppl bring it up why? Because it suits their agendas I guess. And Oscar's competition being better doesn't mean anything if he doesn't win. And typically speaking he didn't win against his top level competition.

Alot of people think it was a draw, myself included. Just like you thinking Floyd beat Castillo which alot of people thought he lost.

[imperial1]

I love how people use the "past their prime" argument when its for Floyd wins but almost never use it for other fighters wins . Whitaker and Chavez were both past their prime when Oscar got to them.

Funny when Oscar fought Pernell that was for the best fight p4p he as 33 when he fought Oscar not in his prime but not to far from it ..

And the version of Chavez that Oscar fought would have went through all of Maywwethers opponents ! He was what 34 when he fought Oscar.. Yet Floyd for some reason never fought anyone as close to being as good as these two !

[-PBP-]

I guess you give credit to Martinez for beating Salido yesterday? DLH beat prime tito and Mosley on the BALCO co(ktail and everyone knows it...those two fighters alone are better than anyone Floyd beat.

Like I said, If Floyd had beaten at least either Tszyu or Hatton at 140, and the prime welterwights of 07 or Pac before Marquez ended his confidence, then he'd have some fighters close or better to the level of those two that Oscar beat...but he didn't.

And Whitaker was past prime but he was also undefeated(unless you don't think he got robbed vs Ramirez)...hell, if anything that's another win that Foyd can't come close to. The great fighters past prime that Floyd beat were Mosley and Oscar, and they had been inactive and beaten up before Floyd, and were basically part time fighters who needed the right match up to look good. Even Chavez was at least active and had only lost to Randall and Whitaker, never KO'ed.

This is the thing with Oscar. People will give him credit for when he got robbed vs. Tito and Mosley (which I agree with btw) but will then give him credit for Whitaker, Quartey and Sturm which could have EASILY gone the other way.

That's why when judging resume you have to look at 1) who they beat 2) how they beat them 3) when they beat them.

When you factor in all 3 criteria this isn't even a discussion. If you just want to BoxRec and credit names then it appears a lot closer than it should.

[The Big Dunn]

This is the thing with Oscar. People will give him credit for when he got robbed vs. Tito and Mosley (which I agree with btw) but will then give him credit for Whitaker, Quartey and Sturm which could have EASILY gone the other way.

That's why when judging resume you have to look at 1) who they beat 2) how they beat them 3) when they beat them.

When you factor in all 3 criteria this isn't even a discussion. If you just want to BoxRec and credit names then it appears a lot closer than it should.

Exactly. Of course this is NSB, where a lot posters think Floyd's resume is only the fighters he struggled to beat and any boxer he didn't fight.