IMO some of De La Hoya's "losses" are way better than a bunch of Mayweather's wins.
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In terms of actual wins, who has the better resume - DLH or Floyd?
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Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View PostI love how people use the "past their prime" argument when its for Floyd wins but almost never use it for other fighters wins. Whitaker and Chavez were both past their prime when Oscar got to them.
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Originally posted by Kagami Taiga View PostExcept Oscar arguably lost to Quartey and Sturm and u could also keep going with floyd's resume: Canelo, Mosely, Hernandez etc.
Sturm fight was a lot closer, I'll give you that.
In terms of Floyd, you could do the same thing : lost to Castillo, Maidana 1 should probably have been a draw, the DLH fight etc etc etc.
Let's not start naming guys like Hernandez cos Oscar's opposition below 147 ain't too shabby either.
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Originally posted by Death_Adder View PostOscar by a wide margin. Beat Chavez, Whitaker, Trinidad, Quartey, Mosley, and Saline IV.
Saline IV, needed to pay off the NSAC, judges, refs, make ridiculous demands, weight drain opponents, avoided the best in his era when they were in their primes, fought guys coming off losses or when they were past their primes, take the least risks possible in a fight and use PEDs to get that fake record.
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would floyd have went undefeated had he fought a prime manny, prime shane mosley, undefeated prime tito, pernell whitaker, chavez sr, bernard hopkins, etc.???? i doubt it.
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Originally posted by Malgus View PostDe La Hoya got the s**t end of the stick in close fights against Trinidad and Mosley. Wtf are you talking about "flat out lost",.
Hopkins is naturally 30 pounds bigger than De La Hoya and Pacquiao beat the s**t out of a shot De La Hoya.
Do you though my brother, black power!
Bottom Line is that Oscar LOST most of his big match ups. How are you going to credit someone for a great Resume when they lost most of those big fights. It is called a RESUME, that is like putting on your Job Resume the Jobs you Filled Out a Application For But Did Not Get!
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Originally posted by soul_survivor View PostThe Quartey fight was close but Oscar won that, silly rumour.
Sturm fight was a lot closer, I'll give you that.
In terms of Floyd, you could do the same thing : lost to Castillo, Maidana 1 should probably have been a draw, the DLH fight etc etc etc.
Let's not start naming guys like Hernandez cos Oscar's opposition below 147 ain't too shabby either.
You look down Oscar's record and, adding the fights that he loss or possibly could've lost, you're talking about 8 fights that were put in doubt.
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Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Postwould floyd have went undefeated had he fought a prime manny, prime shane mosley, undefeated prime tito, pernell whitaker, chavez sr, bernard hopkins, etc.???? i doubt it.
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Oscar-Trinidad wasn't a robbery, and Jim Lampley is a piece of shit for swaying the minds of many. You dickheads need to go and rewatch that one, it's a new age and you could very easily find a copy now.
That said, and my opinion differs from some posters I respect on here, I only gave Mosley 3 rounds in the rematch. Oscar to me clearly won that one.
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