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  • Corelone
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    #71
    Might as well just take the guys word that he can make wieght since he's coming in 20 lbs heavier no matter what. A new rule getting abused. 200 years of same day weigh in, now huge weight differences and advantages.

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    • Eastcoast
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      #72
      In August the Arkansas State Athletic Commission instituted new temporary rules for amateur boxing & mma participants where you do the traditional 24 hour weigh-in, but then have to do a second weigh-in the day of the event where you're not allowed to gain 7.5% and not allowed to weigh-in past the next weight class. If they exceed those criteria or show signs on dehydration, the fight is called off.

      Starting in January, California will require all amateur mma & boxing participants to test for their 'minimum healthy weight' each year and not allow them to participate below that (currently being done in NCAAA wrestling).

      In both cases, they'll then evaluate the results and look to implement for professionals. It'll probably take a couple years before we see it reach the pro's, but this could spur Nevada to finally jump into action and make things happen even sooner.


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        #73
        Hope the stripper is alright and can be on the pole soon enough shaking his junk for unfaithful, chubby housewives.

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        • Eastcoast
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          #74
          Originally posted by Corelone
          Might as well just take the guys word that he can make wieght since he's coming in 20 lbs heavier no matter what. A new rule getting abused. 200 years of same day weigh in, now huge weight differences and advantages.
          Lol! Not quite that long.

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          • Eff Pandas
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            #75
            Originally posted by Barcham
            Too bad. That is the choice he has made for himself. A fighter has the right to stretch the rules and put himself at risk as much as he chooses, he does not have the right to put his opponent at risk.
            Or we can not just go back to the **** that didn't really work before. I don't think there needs to be either fighter put at risk. And that just requires a hydration weight limit.

            The old option was bad, the current option is bad. If a fighter gets killed or injured in the ring the mainstream news isn't gonna care if its cuz of a guy making a crazy weight cut or cuz of a guy being 20lbs more the day after a weigh in. Its bad PR for boxing either way. Its time for a new option.

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            • kafkod
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              #76
              Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
              You need to go look at post after Krusher win then or the mismatches Triple G in or how bout that disgrace of canelo Kirkland fight, point is if a pbc fight is exciting fools come in articles and find reasons to complain, mares vs Santa Cruz fight you had guys complaining about sponsors or if it's free anything to do with pbc ppl find a reason to complain don't matter if it's a mando or not a mismatch is a mismatch don't big up one mismatch but hide behind it's a mando title to **** on another mismatch
              Do you know what mandatory defence means?

              Remember why Quillin isn't WBO champ any more?
              Last edited by kafkod; 09-12-2015, 07:50 PM.

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              • Barcham
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                #77
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                Or we can not just go back to the **** that didn't really work before. I don't think there needs to be either fighter put at risk. And that just requires a hydration weight limit.

                The old option was bad, the current option is bad. If a fighter gets killed or injured in the ring the mainstream news isn't gonna care if its cuz of a guy making a crazy weight cut or cuz of a guy being 20lbs more the day after a weigh in. Its bad PR for boxing either way. Its time for a new option.
                I agree that we need another option and I proposed such in another post. That does not change the fact that I have no pity for a fighter who abuses the rules by draining himself down and then rehydrating for the fight if he is prevented from rehydrating by the rules. Tough luck. You know the rules going in.

                What is really needed is to have this taken out of the hands of private sanctioning bodies and a government mandated FEDERAL commission put in place to ensure fighter safety. Having individual State commissions has not worked and will never work. But I would not be surprised if there is some ****** statute somewhere that prevents this from being controlled federally.

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                • PunchyPotorff
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                  #78
                  Quillin/Satellite Dish Ears Jacobs is a 50/50 fight, and it really means little since both are marginal at best. The real feast will be either GGG or Lemieux vs the winner. Either of those two will launch Quillin or Jacobs into a permanent space orbit. And I will enjoy every second of it.

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                  • Barcham
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
                    Quillin/Satellite Dish Ears Jacobs is a 50/50 fight, and it really means little since both are marginal at best. The real feast will be either GGG or Lemieux vs the winner. Either of those two will launch Quillin or Jacobs into a permanent space orbit. And I will enjoy every second of it.
                    Quillin will never fight GGG because he will be moving to 168 after the Jacobs fight. Would not surprise me at all for that fight to be at a catchweight like today's fight either. Golovkin has more important fights to take after Lemieux than Quillin anyways.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
                      You need to go look at post after Krusher win then or the mismatches Triple G in or how bout that disgrace of canelo Kirkland fight, point is if a pbc fight is exciting fools come in articles and find reasons to complain, mares vs Santa Cruz fight you had guys complaining about sponsors or if it's free anything to do with pbc ppl find a reason to complain don't matter if it's a mando or not a mismatch is a mismatch don't big up one mismatch but hide behind it's a mando title to **** on another mismatch
                      I am not the one that is trying make a point so I don't have to do anything.

                      With that said. I will be honest I personally don't think much at all of Nadjib Mohammedi. But he was ranked about 83 spots higher when Kovalev fought him then Quillin's opponent today. He was also ranked very high for a long time by Ring magazine so the experts who supposedly know a lot more than I know obviously thought rather highly of him.

                      But that really doesn't matter because Kovalev had to fight him. Main Events even paid him step aside money at least once and maybe even twice but the fight had to happen or he would have been stripped. That is the difference. You also want to drag GGG into the mix so here goes.

                      I will be honest and say that I am a GGG fan but I find most of his fights to be noncompetitive and boring. However, I don't believe he is cherry picking simply because Lemieux will be his 15th title fight and David will also be GGG eighth Ring top ten fighter he has fought in those fights.

                      I have to ask. How many modern fighters do you suppose fight Ring top ten fighters on a consistent basis? I am not sure but I will bet that its a very short list.

                      You should also take into account that GGG fights quit often. And you would be hard pressed to find any world class fighter that can consistently fight top elite fighters when he fights that much.

                      If you haven't figured it out yet my point is that you want to drag other fighters into the mix and I simply believe that they are different circumstances. And I believe that I produced enough evidence to prove that.

                      I also want to make it clear that I really don't find fault with Quillin or really even care that he is fighting this level of fighter. What I do find a tad ridiculous is the fact that PBC makes a main event out of a garbage fight on a Saturday afternoon.

                      Especially when PBC has how many fighters under contract? Is it 100, 200 or 250? And they still have to dig so deep to match one of their top fighter with a fighter ranked around 90th in the world that no one has ever heard of? I also wonder what market share are they going after.

                      Because I'm an obsessed hard core fan and I will watch any fights. But honestly I have several casual boxing fan friends that have already given up on PBC. I was talking to one just last night that gave up on the Adonis main event to watch the premier of the second season of Z Nation.

                      So, if it is the casual fan PBC is seeking they are already losing them in droves. And why because for the most part their match making is as horrendous as it is meaningless.

                      I also find it ridiculous that Quillin and Jacobs are going back and fourth as if Jacobs is the one and only real middleweight champ of the world. When in reality he isn't even the real WBA champ. Its almost as sad as it is laughable to watch.
                      Last edited by Ravens Fan; 09-12-2015, 08:11 PM.

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