Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[radioraheem]

A lot more common in combat sports than you think. MMA fighters talking about the upcoming ban. It's not banned yet.

Nice find.

[GTTofAK]

This case is closed. But hey, keep dreaming the dream. You'll be dreaming it for the rest of your life.

The case is never closed when congress is involved. Congress has been looking for an excuse to regulate boxing on the national level for a long time.

[DannyNL]

That video brings even more questions. So Bennett was against USADA giving TUE since according to him, only NSAC can provide TUE in Nevada.

Yeah but it's a tricky situation because yes, only NSAC can grant TUE's, but that only applies to substances and practices that it bans.

The NSAC doesn't ban the use of an IV, so how can they expect to hand out a TUE for something that they themselves don't ban?

[radioraheem]

The case is never closed when congress is involved. Congress has been looking for an excuse to regulate boxing on the national level for a long time.

Here's the problem, Congress is NOT involved!

[DannyNL]

MMA trainer Mike Dolce says IV's are not banned by the athletic commissions.

Exactly, they aren't. It's amazing how many people are running their mouths without knowing the facts.

The NSAC DOES NOT BAN IV USE. It's USADA that bans it's use.

People are saying "I've never heard of an athlete needing an IV."

Well these people are ignorant. IV use has been WIDE SPREAD in MMA (including the UFC) for YEARS.

[Ruthless One]

Yeah but it's a tricky situation because yes, only NSAC can grant TUE's, but that only applies to substances and practices that it bans.

The NSAC doesn't ban the use of an IV, so how can they expect to hand out a TUE for something that they themselves don't ban?

Bro, I didn't say NSAC bans IV-use. I said they had the authority, not USADA, when it comes to giving TUEs in Nevada. Bennett, the director for NSAC, wasn't happy when USADA gave a TUE for Mayweather (and retroactively as well) and specifically stated that only NSAC has the authority to do so within the state. So, an athlete in Nevada should have gone to NSAC for a TUE, not get it from USADA. Mayweather wasn't banned from taking IVs but he was taking 700 mL more than usual. NSAC would have preferred if he went to them instead of USADA.

[GTTofAK]

Here's the problem, Congress is NOT involved!

Congress is involved right now. Congress has been looking into steroid abuse in boxing all year. NSAC just gave congress the ammo it needed.

[radioraheem]

Bro, I didn't say NSAC bans IV-use. I said they had the authority, not USADA, when it comes to giving TUEs in Nevada. Bennett, the director for NSAC, wasn't happy when USADA gave a TUE for Mayweather (and retroactively as well) and specifically stated that only NSAC has the authority to do so within the state.

That's incorrect. USADA also has the power to give TUEs because they are the official anti-doping agency in the US. It's just that NSAC wants to be the authority of that for professional fights in the State of Nevada. They want to be the ultimate judge/decider.

[Johnny2x2x]

Just to keep people focused on the facts, again, these are the actual facts of behind Floyd's IV:

Here are the actual facts of the IV incident.

"The report suggested the solution had to be administered in a hospital setting because the amount used; 750 milliliters, or about three-fourths of a typical IV bag ; theoretically could serve as a masking agent. But WADA guidelines specify that the hospital requirement applies only the case if a temporary use exemption (TUE) isn't granted.

Mayweather had a United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) collection official summoned to his home to verify compliance before accepting the infusion, sources told MLive. He was drug tested before and after the IV was administered, with the USADA collector present. The TUE was granted retroactively, as allowed under WADA rules, on May 20, 18 days after the fight.

"Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong," Nevada State Athletic Commission chairman Bob Bennett told Showtime before the fight. "The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA rules for any type of drugs and we have no issue."

The WADA came to his home and was present for the IV, the WADA gave their explicit go ahead.

Do people realize how easy it would be for a boxer to get an IV in their home without anyone knowing? Floyd could have done it late at night in his bedroom if he wanted to hide anything. Instead they called the WADA to ask permission and then had them come to the house to witness the IV administration. The TUE was asked for and granted after the fact as the rules state it can be.

[Ruthless One]

That's incorrect. USADA also has the power to give TUEs because they are the official anti-doping agency in the US. It's just that NSAC wants to be the authority of that for professional fights in the State of Nevada. They want to be the ultimate judge/decider.

Well, if that's the case, they need to have a clearer policy when it comes to who can provide TUEs in Nevada since USADA gave a TUE yet the NSAC director's saying only they have the sole authority to give a TUE within the state. Confusing as hell to fighters. USADA and NSAC need to clear this up amongst themselves.