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  • #41
    I dropped him cause I'm not sure if he's fighting Ron De Rowsee

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    • #42
      He just beat the #2 guy. Why would he not be #1?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
        In my opinion no, there's fighters out there who are obviously better than Mayweather at this point.

        GGG, Rigo, Kovalev, Wladomir, and Gonzales.
        Did they beat the number 2 P4P legend 4 months ago? NO! have they ever beaten anyone who was in the top 10 P4P? NO! were they champions at 2 different weight classes at the same time? NO! Floyd Mayweather beat 3-4 P4P ranked guys in the last 5 years, these people u mentioned aren't even close to that, so it's pretty clear who the best P4P fighter is.

        GGG shouldn't be in the top 5 by any means, he hasn't beaten anybody, at least Gonzalez moved up in weight and challenged himself against the best in other weight division, GGG still wants to clean out 160, and until he does he's not in the top 10 on my list and shouldn't be in the top 5 on anybody's list.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View Post
          Did they beat the number 2 P4P legend 4 months ago? NO! have they ever beaten anyone who was in the top 10 P4P? NO! were they champions at 2 different weight classes at the same time? NO! Floyd Mayweather beat 3-4 P4P ranked guys in the last 5 years, these people u mentioned aren't even close to that, so it's pretty clear who the best P4P fighter is.

          GGG shouldn't be in the top 5 by any means, he hasn't beaten anybody, at least Gonzalez moved up in weight and challenged himself against the best in other weight division, GGG still wants to clean out 160, and until he does he's not in the top 10 on my list and shouldn't be in the top 5 on anybody's list.
          How are they going to do that when it's filled with little people?

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          • #45
            Originally posted by 2shameless View Post
            Not for long if he continues to fight Berto level opponents.
            yet 95% of GGG's resume is littered with fighters that aren't half as berto and he is considered top 5 by a lot.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
              How are they going to do that when it's filled with little people?
              GGG had a chance to prove himself against a real p4p fighter and he decided to be a coward.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                How are they going to do that when it's filled with little people?
                It doesn't matter why, fact is they never fought a top rated P4P fighter, Floyd did numerous times, I think Rigo is the only guy who did when he fought Donaire and I have him ahead of everybody else, listen if Floyd would've stayed at 130 all his career, like Kovalev, Ward, GGG, Rigo and so on, he would've never faced the level of opposition he faced and he wouldn't have gotten to where he is in his career, moving up in weight has become a standard now if u wanna become great, the bar is just set too high by Pacqauio, Mayweather, Whitaker, Jones and even Dela Hoya, all these people moved up and fought at a size disadvantage to beat the best P4P fighters, if they can't get P4P ranked guys in their weight divisions and don't have any legit competition they should move up, Gonzalez is doing a great job and he's confident in his talent, which is why I have him just behind Rigo.

                And no you don't get credit for fighters "ducking" you, you only get credit when u beat them in the ring, there are no moral victories in sports.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View Post
                  It doesn't matter why, fact is they never fought a top rated P4P fighter, Floyd did numerous times, I think Rigo is the only guy who did when he fought Donaire and I have him ahead of everybody else, listen if Floyd would've stayed at 130 all his career, like Kovalev, Ward, GGG, Rigo and so on, he would've never faced the level of opposition he faced and he wouldn't have gotten to where he is in his career, moving up in weight has become a standard now if u wanna become great, the bar is just set too high by Pacqauio, Mayweather, Whitaker, Jones and even Dela Hoya, all these people moved up and fought at a size disadvantage to beat the best P4P fighters, if they can't get P4P ranked guys in their weight divisions and don't have any legit competition they should move up, Gonzalez is doing a great job and he's confident in his talent, which is why I have him just behind Rigo.

                  And no you don't get credit for fighters "ducking" you, you only get credit when u beat them in the ring, there are no moral victories in sports.
                  Golovkin & Kovalev both moved up from 140, they just did it in the amateurs where they were both very successful. They turned pro later. Mayweather didn't move up past age 30 either.

                  It's not a historical list, you want to keep Rigondeaux elevated for a fight he won 3 years ago, that doesn't reflect the sport today where Wlad, GGG and Kovalev are tearing it up.

                  Originally posted by Xi_ View Post
                  GGG had a chance to prove himself against a real p4p fighter and he decided to be a coward.
                  Ward's not on any list, when he was in 2013 Golovkin tried to make the fight with him and Ward wasn't interested. Froch was on the list a couple of months ago, he was offered the fight too, and he turned it down.
                  Last edited by Weebler I; 09-07-2015, 09:20 AM.

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                  • #49
                    One of the dumbest questions in recent memory.

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                    • #50
                      did I miss something?!?....of course he's STILL the p4p King....hands down!!

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