is floyd still #1 p4p?

[PAC-BOY]

so what do you think? is floyd still #1 p4p?
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Of course he is!

[nivek535]

what is wrong with you people?
only have negative things to say about others, instead of actually posting insightful material?

[SilverMiles]

In my opinion no, there's fighters out there who are obviously better than Mayweather at this point.

GGG, Rigo, Kovalev, Wladomir, and Gonzales.

[_original_]

That basis of pound for pound criteria is pretty flawed. Well, the pound for pound system is pretty flawed regardless, but things such as resume, recent accomplishments, and divisional standings make for a more grounded reasoning. It can't just be a fantasy realm where all boxers weigh the same and we having to judge who would come out on top if they all fought each other. If that were the case, then you could make an argument that somebody like Artur Beterbiev is the pound for pound best right now. Also, once you take upsets, triangle theories and style match ups into considerations, then this just destroys that criteria completely. So, in my opinion, it's a mixture of resume, recent accomplishments, divisional ranking and a little bit of fun guessing who would beat who if all weighed the same.

[nivek535]

That basis of pound for pound criteria is pretty flawed. Well, the pound for pound system is pretty flawed regardless, but things such as resume, recent accomplishments, and divisional standings make for a more grounded reasoning. It can't just be a fantasy realm where all boxers weigh the same and we having to judge who would come out on top if they all fought each other. If that were the case, then you could make an argument that somebody like Artur Beterbiev is the pound for pound best right now. Also, once you take upsets, triangle theories and style match ups, then this just throws destroys that criteria completely. So, in my opinion, it's a mixture of resume, recent accomplishments, divisional ranking and a little bit of fun guessing who would beat who if all weighed the same.

if resume is taken into account, how about james toney, roy jones jr (both active)? (end-of-spectrum-example) haha but u get the point.

but how recent is recent accomplishments?
1 year?
because fighters change A LOT within 2 years... right?

[_original_]

if resume is taken into account, how about james toney, roy jones jr (both active)? (end-of-spectrum-example) haha but u get the point.

but how recent is recent accomplishments?
1 year?
because fighters change A LOT within 2 years... right?

Yes, well that's the tricky area indeed. A good example would be Andre Ward who is amazingly talented and skilled with a resume to back it up. However, his recent inactivity and lack of stellar opposition in recent years has made people drop him off their lists (rightfully so) or rank him lower than the #2 status he held years prior. He didn't lose or have a bad showing to drop him off his spot yet there's guys ranked above him now who, if the same weight, would definitely not be favored to beat him. As I originally stated, it's a flawed system in general, best to just have fun with it and not overthink it.

[nivek535]

Yes, well that's the tricky area indeed. A good example would be Andre Ward who is amazingly talented and skilled with a resume to back it up. However, his recent inactivity and lack of stellar opposition in recent years has made people drop him off their lists (rightfully so) or rank him lower than the #2 status he held years prior. He didn't lose or have a bad showing to drop him off his spot yet there's guys ranked above him now who, if the same weight, would definitely not be favored to beat him. As I originally stated, it's a flawed system in genera, best to just have fun with it and not overthink it.

true.

but what do you think, is floyd still #1 p4p?

[Build That Wall]

Of course he is!

I guess I was Wrong. Man, WHY DON'T MORE PACQTARDS RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH LIKE YOURSELF.

You know what, Pac-Boy is no longer a Pacqtard. He is just a Pacquiao fan. He has left Check Hooks, Spoon23, Kuyukut, ADP02, And Rath behind as they pick up the load to be Pacqtards.

Out of All Pacquiao fans, Pac-boy has acted more rationally than any Pacqtard. FFS Pac-Boy ate his crow and didn't barf it back up like Jas.

[nivek535]

I guess I was Wrong. Man, WHY DON'T MORE PACQTARDS RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH LIKE YOURSELF.

You know what, Pac-Boy is no longer a Pacqtard. He is just a Pacquiao fan. He has left Check Hooks, Spoon23, Kuyukut, ADP02, And Rath behind as they pick up the load to be Pacqtards.

Out of All Pacquiao fans, Pac-boy has acted more rationally than any Pacqtard. FFS Pac-Boy ate his crow and didn't barf it back up like Jas.

lol wtf, how do u rmbr all these users' and their posting tendencies/views haha

[BoxingIsGreat]

No doubt at all. The closest is Ward.