The Man, The Myth, The Legend...... Miguel Cotto.

[Trinidad_Fan]

LOL at all this energy trying to "explain" why Cotto isn't great.

Meanwhile, he's one of boxing's biggest draws, and everyone finds it necessary to talk about him, one way or the other. He seems a lock for the HOF, his finances are secure... and TBH doesn't give a **** one way or the other what a bunch of second-guessers in a boxing forum think.

[BoxVillaKO]

Cotto may have beaten an old Sergio, but i give credit for taking the risk. He got a win that Mayweather could have easily gotten if he took the risk of getting a sixth divisional title.

We have to be honest Cotto had an uncle training him so he could save a lot of money that a top-notch trainer like Roach demanded. The short relationship with Steward may have been due to money also. Between paying your promoter and uncle sam a fighter may lose half their purse. If a trainer takes another big chunk he will be left with far less.

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was it really a risk?

sergio looked like hell vs murray and made it public he was going to have a serious knee surgery

his phone was probably ringing off the hook with managers who wanted his name on their fighter's record

[-Hyperion-]

took a risk Mayweather didn't? like that's a high bar...

People who were willing to retire Sergio: The whole middelweight division, Cotto just offered the most money and a calculated risk for Sergio.

I don't get why people think TS just hates Cotto....Cotto really hasn't beat anyone to hate him. TS himself is a pacfan and admitted Pac EASILY beats guys with no endurance/durability/chin like Cotto.

[Agent Mulder]

king cotto!








btw, Left Hook Tua deserves some green and a beer for this powerful thread. Props.

[Deeznuts]

Did you ponder this all by yourself? That's a great amount of hate to spew from one little fella

[Left Hook Tua]

LOL at all this energy trying to "explain" why Cotto isn't great.

Meanwhile, he's one of boxing's biggest draws, and everyone finds it necessary to talk about him, one way or the other. He seems a lock for the HOF, his finances are secure... and TBH doesn't give a **** one way or the other what a bunch of second-guessers in a boxing forum think.

See this is the problem.

Never said he wasn't hof.

Never said he wasn't a big draw.

Nothing to do with his money.

This is about cotto but not toward cotto.

We are talking resume, legacy in the sport.

It doesn't take much energy to talk cotto resume.

Maybe difficult if you try to portray him as some all time great though. He doesn't have the accomplishments.

[Left Hook Tua]

The OP for this thread has too much time on his hands. There's so many things overlooked and funny about the OP that nobody should waste there time debating against his biased opinion. He will simply ignore valid and robust rebuttals against his argument but respond to the weak ones to continue his biased case. Look, at the end of the day Cotto will be in the HOF whether you hate or like him, deal with it.

There's very few valid and robust rebuttals. Very few.

Whether I ignore a case for cotto or not is irrelevant.

All you or any cotto fan have to do is list all of cotto accomplishments.

This is a forum for debate not American idol. Anyone can make their points.


Don't care if cotto is in hof. He will get in. Hof doesn't mean you're great though. Isn't gatti in?

[Trinidad_Fan]

See this is the problem.

Never said he wasn't hof.

Never said he wasn't a big draw.

Nothing to do with his money.

This is about cotto but not toward cotto.

We are talking resume, legacy in the sport.

It doesn't take much energy to talk cotto resume.

Maybe difficult if you try to portray him as some all time great though. He doesn't have the accomplishments.

Then we're probably not as far apart as I thought.
IMO, Trinidad, Gomez, Benitez were all better and more accomplished than Cotto.

Where we differ is on the resume itself.
Go back through Cotto's early fights.
If you know the names, you'll see Cotto very early on, took on some difficult names early in his career.

180-degree difference from someone like Canelo, who gets hyped for his record.
Now THERE'S a soft resume with holes all over it.

You dismiss Judah and Mosley. I don't.
I already posted how they went on to significant victories after losing to Cotto.

[RED REP]

The Myth

Miguel Cotto fights everyone. A warrior who fought everyone.

Really?

Miguel Cotto has had one of the most "PROMOTER CREATED" careers in boxing.

Top Rank matchmakers had to work overtime to get him his belts.

His 1st 3 belts were all vacant titles.

He won the vacant WBO 140 belt fighting Kelson Pinto.
He won the vacant WBC 147 belt fighting Carlos Quintana.
He won the vacant WBO 147 belt fighting Michael Jennings.
The 1st time he won a belt from a "CHAMPION" was cherrypicking Yuri Foreman.

Cotto never tried to unify and fight another "CHAMPION".

People thought Cotto was fighting everyone because he fought Zab Judah, Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito 2007-2008.

Judah hadn't won in 2 years when Cotto fought him. Winless in his 3 previous fights.

Mosley was 36 yrs. old and people thought he was washed up after going 1W-4L-1NC 2002-2004.

Margarito had just lost the previous year to Paul Williams and let's be honest Cotto and handlers thought Margarito was too slow and unskilled.

Lol murder!

187!