the man the myth the legend...Paul Williams at 147

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Thing is the Margarito fight was the fight that put him on the radar at 147 for real. Sometimes things take time in boxing to make happen. Promoters are always "building up" fights so the new guy on the scene always get backlogged. Its kinda bs, but its standard bs that most guys go thru. The problem for Williams is he lost his next fight & took himself right off the radar at 147 for the name guys. Then he was outta 147 after avenging his L months later.

There isn't really much to complain about with Paul being avoided at 147. He grand opened vs Margarito, grand closed vs Quintana & was gone all in about a 13 month period. Few cats are going from getting on the scene to the biggest fights at a weight in 13 months in particular when they catch a L right in the middle of that period.

He didn't grand open with Margs. He worked his way up to that level and handled business. You're supposed to progress after big wins like that. Ortiz, Algeiri, Guerrero, etc. all for bigger and better opportunities for taking care of business.

Everybody but P Will. Because he's black and awkward.

[Larry the boss]

He was a decent fighter,a lot of holes in his defense and technique.But yes he is very overrated

[Larry the boss]

Man...The Punisher was one of my favourite boxers back then. He was so awkward for his opponents. He was really tall and gangly and used to hit fighters from different angles. I'll always remember that unorthodox uppercut he hit Winky Wright with...honestly you have to see the shot, it's crazy. Was going to fight Canelo before his accident..so sad his career was cut short, he was one of the good guys.

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[-PBP-]

Bruh...he lost to quintana 2 months after Floyd beat hatton


In may of 07 may vs odlh happened in a ppv record...Williams beat Margo that June.

Williams was not #1 contender in 07...cotto was

If Williams was white or Mexican they would've landed a big fight. That's a fact. Black fighters just dint generate enough fan support. You're just trying to bash him because somebody probably mentioned Floyd not fighting him.

[Eff Pandas]

I admit he should've. He fights guys coming off big wins and Williams deserved Floyd, Manny or Cotto after beating Margarito.

After the Margarito fight is the only time Mayweather vs Williams would've made sense (imo) & Mayweather chose Hatton instead. Hatton was a undefeated 2 division champion who was ranked in the top 5 P4P iirc & Williams was a guy who just won his first title. Its not a hard decision who to pick there. People get too caught up in the Williams hype at the time & his height I think.

After that Williams lost & moved up within months of that L & the fight never made sense again. I can't see Williams as a guy who Mayweather avoided or even a guy who deserved Mayweather. I could definitely see situations where that fight woulda made sense like Mayweather vs Ortiz made sense or Mayweather vs Maidana made sense, but certain things woulda needed to go differently than they did.

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After the Margarito fight is the only time Mayweather vs Williams would've made sense (imo) & Mayweather chose Hatton instead. Hatton was a undefeated 2 division champion who was ranked in the top 5 P4P iirc & Williams was a guy who just won his first title. Its not a hard decision who to pick there. People get too caught up in the Williams hype at the time & his height I think.

After that Williams lost & moved up within months of that L & the fight never made sense again. I can't see Williams as a guy who Mayweather avoided or even a guy who deserved Mayweather. I could definitely see situations where that fight woulda made sense like Mayweather vs Ortiz made sense or Mayweather vs Maidana made sense, but certain things woulda needed to go differently than they did.

Mayweather wasn't the only money fight in the division.

And don't tell me nothing about Hatton. He was picked because of where he was born.

[El-blanco]

Mayweather wasn't the only money fight in the division.

And don't tell me nothing about Hatton. He was picked because of where he was born.

He also looked less than impressive against collazo. Whereas Williams just beat the biggest hyped guy at the time. Margarito was talked about as an unstoppable force due to his work rate and chin. Beating him was a huge deal. I don't understand how guys underrate Paul. He brutally avenged his first defeat and then got ko'd by a perfect punch by a red hot fighter at the time. How this guy gets flack by the same people who argue about Guerrero being a p4p fighter is mind boggling.

[Eff Pandas]

He didn't grand open with Margs. He worked his way up to that level and handled business. You're supposed to progress after big wins like that. Ortiz, Algeiri, Guerrero, etc. all for bigger and better opportunities for taking care of business.

Everybody but P Will. Because he's black and awkward.

The best W he had previous to Margarito was probably Sharmba Mitchell who Mayweather took **** for beating a year earlier. He was getting HBO hype at the time sure, but he wasn't really on the map for real til the Margarito win lets not bs reality.

LOL at the racial angle here. Certainly its more marketable to be certain colors or nationalities in boxing at times no debating that, but here he woulda had to out white Ricky Hatton to get Mayweather & Hatton was militantly white so even if Williams was white or Mexican I think he comes up short.

[therealpugilist]

If Williams was white or Mexican they would've landed a big fight. That's a fact. Black fighters just dint generate enough fan support. You're just trying to bash him because somebody probably mentioned Floyd not fighting him.

Its not a race issue...he could've been purple with hattons resume and money offered and even you would've fought hatton in his shoes

Hatton was more proven won a title @ 147 like williams and was lineal @ 140 a few defenses in...like 40+ and 0


Not rocket science who you fight....it could've happened in 05-06 pbf/hatton

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The best W he had previous to Margarito was probably Sharmba Mitchell who Mayweather took **** for beating a year earlier. He was getting HBO hype at the time sure, but he wasn't really on the map for real til the Margarito win lets not bs reality.

LOL at the racial angle here. Certainly its more marketable to be certain colors or nationalities in boxing at times no debating that, but here he woulda had to out white Ricky Hatton to get Mayweather & Hatton was militantly white so even if Williams was white or Mexican I think he comes up short.

Bro. Cotto fought Margs after he lost to Williams.

Look, you can play the financial incentive role all you want. I agree with it. But don't sit here and tell me with a straight face that Williams was not deserving of a fight with one of the big 3.

Plenty of lesser fighters got opportunities because of where they were born.