Comments Thread For: Loeffler: Fans Should Criticize Fighters Ducking Golovkin

[aboutfkntime]

GGG's stock started to rise because he talked about Andre Ward?

Are you serious mate?

Outside of hardcore boxing fans, NOBODY KNOWS WHO THE FUCK WARD IS. In his last fight, he had to give away tickets fill empty seats in his own home town, for crissake. It aired on free TV and only 350k people tuned in to watch it!

Ward's lack of fans and main stream recognition is exactly what Loeffler and Sanchez were talking about when they said that fighting him would not make financial sense until GGG became a name in his own right, and why HBO told both of them 2 years ago that they were not interested in funding it.

Since then, GGG has actually tried his best to avoid talking about Ward, and been called a duck and a coward because of that, so you can't have it both ways.

And does Ward owe Kovalev a verbal commitment to fight, because he has talked about doing it?

The fact that you accept the bold is your problem.

Wards name was used as an excuse, despite GGG not having one either.

They could have just fought, like fighters used to do before fans started co-signig that buffoonery.

[aboutfkntime]

I don't think they want Ward now. But in all likelihood Ward's stock will continue to rebound over his next few fights, and with GGG getting off to what looks to be a promising first PPV performance and potentially a big money fight against Cotto/Canelo, I suspect that GGG vs Ward will become too big not to make at some point in 2016 or 2017, as long as Ward can still reasonably make 168. In that case you will suddenly hear Abel Sanchez and Loeffler budge from their positions and offer to move GGG to 168.

EDIT: If all this were to fall into place, I doubt they will want to delay much longer. GGG & team will want to make this fight while he is still riding his momentum in the ring and with the fans, and before age begins to catch up with him. Just my guess though.

But it has nothing to do with Ward's " stock ".

Apparently..... they were prepared to fight him, just not at 168.

[aboutfkntime]

This is why every reporter who tilts a mic his way always ask him something about Ward because of his proclamation and now he's imprisoned by it . Even tho Ward told him stop mentioning his name he really can't when u think about it because its the only thing that keeps this guys pulse beating . Without a Ward question , what else will they ask ? What flavored can r u fighting this week ? Do they even know his opponents names , besides Lemieux of course ?

You can talk-the-talk for so long, but fans expect more than that now.....

[cReal Killer]

There's a difference. For one GGG is not a big MW, he rehydrates less than Canelo.

Besides, Ward made Dawson come down to 168. But Ward can't comedown to 164, well maybe not, because he is a damn LHW. That's why you GGG haters want that fight. Just goes to show how feared GGG really is. But here are the differences between the weight GGG would fight Froch and Ward at.

For Froch, GGG could stay at 160 and likely win, for decent money. Same with Chevez. Ward walks around at 180, and is a LHW, it's smart for GGG not to jump up to SMW to fight a LHW. If you don't see that distinction, you don't want too.

Plus, Ward brings little to the table. He hasn't fought anyone in years, overweight bums notwithstanding. Ward doesn't bring a lot of money. And if GGG beat Ward, people like you would just claim 1. That Ward hadn't been the same fighter. 2. That GGG can beat a LHW, he has no business fighting the oh so sacred Canelo. (Just keep making excuses why these pretenders are ducking GGG. Canelo should go fight Ward then. Canelo rehydrates heavier than GGG. Yea, yea, logic is tough for these GGG haters.

As for Canelo Alvarez/Cotto not being MW, that's bull. They are fighting for the MW belt. Specifically Canelo, who rehydrates heavier than GGG.

I get it, you haters love to say GGG should fight a LHW, but no way can Canelo fight a guy who is actually smaller than him.

As for Floyd, first, he walks around saying he can beat GGG. That alone makes a matchup legit. Plus, Floyd calls himself the best ever. People want to see him fight someone who can actually cause damage, and do it while they are in their prime.

Floyd doesn't need to fight GGG. But if Cotto and Canelo want to walk around with the MW belt, they are going to have too man up.

Ward could have had GGG at 164, but didn't want it. He wants GGG while he is trying to stay in the 160 range.

[aboutfkntime]

There's a difference. For one GGG is not a big MW, he rehydrates less than Canelo.

Besides, Ward made Dawson come down to 168. But Ward can't comedown to 164, well maybe not, because he is a damn LHW. That's why you GGG haters want that fight. Just goes to show how feared GGG really is. But here are the differences between the weight GGG would fight Froch and Ward at.

For Froch, GGG could stay at 160 and likely win, for decent money. Same with Chevez. Ward walks around at 180, and is a LHW, it's smart for GGG not to jump up to SMW to fight a LHW. If you don't see that distinction, you don't want too.

Plus, Ward brings little to the table. He hasn't fought anyone in years, overweight bums notwithstanding. Ward doesn't bring a lot of money. And if GGG beat Ward, people like you would just claim 1. That Ward hadn't been the same fighter. 2. That GGG can beat a LHW, he has no business fighting the oh so sacred Canelo. (Just keep making excuses why these pretenders are ducking GGG. Canelo should go fight Ward then. Canelo rehydrates heavier than GGG. Yea, yea, logic is tough for these GGG haters.

As for Canelo Alvarez/Cotto not being MW, that's bull. They are fighting for the MW belt. Specifically Canelo, who rehydrates heavier than GGG.

I get it, you haters love to say GGG should fight a LHW, but no way can Canelo fight a guy who is actually smaller than him.

As for Floyd, first, he walks around saying he can beat GGG. That alone makes a matchup legit. Plus, Floyd calls himself the best ever. People want to see him fight someone who can actually cause damage, and do it while they are in their prime.

Floyd doesn't need to fight GGG. But if Cotto and Canelo want to walk around with the MW belt, they are going to have too man up.

Ward could have had GGG at 164, but didn't want it. He wants GGG while he is trying to stay in the 160 range.

Golovkin said that he can easily KO Ward you homer.

How is it not the same ?

Especially considering that GGG was willing to fight Froch/Chavez at 168.

[HanzGruber]

Is this guy ******ed?

[SugarRaRobinson]

Sorry to turn "Broner" on you, but talking of cans ... can you name me another boxer who KO'd 4 top 10 ranked opponents in the last 2 years?

And can you remember who's name was being chanted by 18000 mostly Mexican fans after GGG KO'd Rubio, who was also Mexican, of course.

I'm not even gonna address who fans r cheering for because that's immaterial . But as far as him knocking out 4 top ten ranked opponents in the last two years , I said something he's KNOWN for , not some needle in a haystack factoid u desperately dug up that no one knows about but u . Either way , there are still a lot of cans that exists in the top ten across all 4 sanctioning body listings .But when someone says list something a fighter is known for and u mention fans cheering , you know right then and there its a SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS !

[aboutfkntime]

Damn, Ward has to rebuild his career. Why should GGG jump two ****ing divisions to fight Ward who walks around at 180, and would fight at 185-190 in that fight. GGG doesn't want to put on weig while he is trying to claims the mantle of the King of the MW.

I'm willing to bet as soon as GGG doesn't move up to SMW, suddenly Ward won't be able to make 168 anymore.

Ward has some decent past fights, but it was quite litter rally years ago. Ward had Dawson come down to 168, but GGG didn't try to force Ward down to 160, they gave him a 50/50 split at 164. Ward bulked.

GGG is in the precipice of being a much bigger finger than Ward, and he is already bigger.

Ward does little for GGG other than give the MW' s more excuses to duck him.

You be spittin out dem excuses bruh.

1) Ward is too big for Golovkin ?

FAIL !

Froch/Chavez both bigger than Ward, and GGG was willing to fight them.

The only difference is..... Ward is an elite fighter, and a stylistic nightmare.

2) Ward did not make Dawson drop down to 168. Dawson wanted Wards title, and he said that he could make the weight no problem.

Golovkin demanded 164 because they know Ward cant make the weight.

It was a roadblock.

3) Currently, Golovkin is being widely criticised for his poor opponent selction..... so how could Ward offer him nothing?

Ward would offer him validation, but he dont wanna take the test.

[kafkod]

I'm not even gonna address who fans r cheering for because that's immaterial . But as far as him knocking out 4 top ten ranked opponents in the last two years , I said something he's KNOWN for , not some needle in a haystack factoid u desperately dug up that no one knows about but u . Either way , there are still a lot of cans that exists in the top ten across all 4 sanctioning body listings .But when someone says list something a fighter is known for and u mention fans cheering , you know right then and there its a SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS !

Why are you asking me this question?

You post about GGG more often than I do.

[i'm a fun haver]

The fact that you accept the bold is your problem.

Wards name was used as an excuse, despite GGG not having one either.

They could have just fought, like fighters used to do before fans started co-signig that buffoonery.

Ward just had his first fight in 19 months and he's fighting catchweight tune ups vs lesser opposition now.
He was never available or willing to fight Golovkin.
It's about ****in time that understand that.