Dariusz Michalczewski's single division run more impressive than Floyd or Roy's.

[JasonBoxing]

More dominant?

In what way?

Dariusz had more LHW fights, and he had a longer title reign. However, the WBO was a lightly regarded title, and despite having less fights at the weight, Roy beat the better competition:

Montell Griffin
Virgil Hill
Reggie Johnson
Richard Hall
Eric Harding
Julio Gonzalez
Clinton Woods
Antonio Tarver

What were Dariusz's best wins?

Probably the following:

Leeonzer Barber
Graciano Rochigianni
Virgil Hill
Montell Griffin
Richard Hall

Roy's resume was better.

Also, Roy had the better wins against common opponents, that included giving a hiding to Hall, who Dariusz struggled with.

So how was Dariusz's run better than Roy's??

Roy did not beta the better competition. Richard Hall was a D Level fighter, Griffin was shot, Graciano Rochigianni beat a bunch of Euro bums, an Virgil Hill was 10 years past prime.

[Butt stuff]

Roy did not beta the better competition. Richard Hall was a D Level fighter, Griffin was shot, Graciano Rochigianni beat a bunch of Euro bums, an Virgil Hill was 10 years past prime.

The fact that you used "beta" as a verb shoots your entire argument to **** for me

[Cuban Linx]

Michalczewski was the most protected fighter of all time.

[robertzimmerman]

Roy did not beta the better competition. Richard Hall was a D Level fighter, Griffin was shot, Graciano Rochigianni beat a bunch of Euro bums, an Virgil Hill was 10 years past prime.

Jason, unless there's been a huge misunderstanding between us, you are destroying your own argument.

Richard Hall, Montell Griffin, Graciano Rochigianni and Virgil Hill, WERE Dariusz's BEST wins.

If you don't rate them, and you want them taking out of the equation, then what's left?

Who the hell else did he beat besides those guys??

Think about it.

Remove those guys from Dariusz's resume, and there's nothing left. So how can you possibly say that he beat better competition than Roy??

Both guys beat Griffin. But Roy beat him first, when he wasn't shot. He was a very good fighter and he was undefeated.

Both guys beat Hill. And yes, he was faded. But although Dariusz got to him first, Roy destroyed him.

Both guys beat Hall. But Roy gave him an absolute hiding, before Dariusz went on to have problems with him.

Again, if you want to take Griffin, Hill and Hall out of the equation, then that's fine.

If you also don't rate Rochigianni who Roy didn't fight, that's also fine. But if you omit those guys, it leaves your argument in absolute tatters.

The best of the rest for Dariusz:

Leeonzer Barber
Nicky Piper
Mark Prince
****** Briaslanov
Alejandro Lakatos
Joey DeGrandis
Derrick Harmon

The best of the rest for Roy:

Mike McCallum
Lou Del Valle
Reggie Johnson
Eric Harding
Julio Gonzalez
Clinton Woods
Antonio Tarver

As far as I can see, you have no argument.

It doesn't even matter whether or not you include Griffin, Hill and Hall for both fighters. Because either way, Roy clearly beat the better guys.

It was a simple case of quality over quantity.


I'll look forward to your response.

[robertzimmerman]

Michalczewski was the most protected fighter of all time.

I honestly don't think he was interested in any big fights after he'd lost the WBA and IBF belts.