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  • mabulkhair
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    #71
    Stevenson is irrelevant now, I would even favor Beterbiev over him. All I hear from Stevenson is quack.quack.quack. Be quiet Kovalev would thrash you!

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    • youbeight
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      #72
      Originally posted by HeroBando
      So what you're saying is, you're just guessing. They offered 3m for Wards tune-up vs Rodriguez, this is far bigger
      im not guessing, its an actual study based on the fights HBO puts up the purse for, HBO was not gonna pay both guys over 1mill a piece to fight each other especially when both werent as known now as they were back then, and the end of the day HBO could have matched stevenson offer from showtime at the time, GYM and Stevenson WANTED hbo to match the offer and they showed emails between them and hbo. HBO has cut its boxing budgets each of the last four years especially when other shows are getting more views on the networks, less tv spots, and all these promoters only have hbo to feed their fighters so theyre competing with eachother for hbo slots, PBC hurts those fighters and promoters more than HBO bc HBO can sit back and let ppl who dont like haymon compete against eachother for their TV slots. and HBO knows those promoters arent gonna do business with Haymon.

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      • tiliheels
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        #73
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        Gotcha, you got nothing. I knew that, but its amusing seeing you try to wiggle out of this.

        Don't let me catch you lying about this again. This is the second time
        so if i told u manny said he will fight for free do u need a link for that too? or do u have that memorized? understand that if he said he will fight for free in 2015 the articles in which he said that in 2012 will be lost in the sauce...

        your not worth that kind of searching..nobody here is..that egocentric af of you btw...

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        • youbeight
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          #74
          Originally posted by DLX
          He ducked Kovalev. He didn't get the Kovalev fight. He fought a bum for more money. That's great for him. Duva never had a solid case, she had emails. Nothing signed. She dropped it yes, because she got what she wanted, a big fight for her fighter. The rodriguez fight happened because HBO rejected all the scrubs Ward was suggesting to them. and what does Arum have to do with Haymon? Two completely different situations. Same for Canelo and HBO, not the same. And Oscar didn't want the Lara fight. It happened because Canelo has balls unlike Adonis and made Oscar make the fight.
          so youre gonna disregard that HBO could have easily matched the offer and made kovalev vs stevenson, perfect. and i brought those up bc you claimed hbo wasnt gonna work with haymon, i provided a haymon fighter on hbo network, and i explained why the canelo lara fight happened. these things could all be avoided if HBO could put money behind duva and ME for kovalev and stop paying him what they pay rios to fight mandatories

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          • HeroBando
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            #75
            Originally posted by ryedes
            im not guessing, its an actual study based on the fights HBO puts up the purse for, HBO was not gonna pay both guys over 1mill a piece to fight each other especially when both werent as known now as they were back then, and the end of the day HBO could have matched stevenson offer from showtime at the time, GYM and Stevenson WANTED hbo to match the offer and they showed emails between them and hbo. HBO has cut its boxing budgets each of the last four years especially when other shows are getting more views on the networks, less tv spots, and all these promoters only have hbo to feed their fighters so theyre competing with eachother for hbo slots, PBC hurts those fighters and promoters more than HBO bc HBO can sit back and let ppl who dont like haymon compete against eachother for their TV slots. and HBO knows those promoters arent gonna do business with Haymon.
            OK but you quoted a hard number, turns out it's just guesswork. There was no bidding for Stevenson Kovalev, it was for Fonfara. HBO of course didn't wanna be nickel and dimed for a tune-up straight off FNF.

            In any case you see how it worked out. Since leaving HBO its been scrubs only, with pathetic ratings and attendance (and lousy Canada Ppv, I'm sure). He somehow managed not to make fights with Hopkins and Pascal, despite inside track, and was just pricing himself out vs Pascal again

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            • tiliheels
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              #76
              ppl say hbo is willing to offer a career high pay day...consider that the purse bid wouls have netted him about 8 million form some sources the 3 million that pascal made is actually robbing stevenson of 5 million bucks or so...HIGHEST SCAM DAY!

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              • youbeight
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                #77
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                OK but you quoted a hard number, turns out it's just guesswork. There was no bidding for Stevenson Kovalev, it was for Fonfara. HBO of course didn't wanna be nickel and dimed for a tune-up straight off FNF.

                In any case you see how it worked out. Since leaving HBO its been scrubs only, with pathetic ratings and attendance (and lousy Canada Ppv, I'm sure). He somehow managed not to make fights with Hopkins and Pascal, despite inside track, and was just pricing himself out vs Pascal again
                theres too consistent of pattern where you can actual quote the numbers, i didnt put numbers outta thin air i actually looked at all the fights dealing with hbo then and to now, and its all the similar budget. there was no bidding war for the fight, but HBO had rights to match what was on the table to stevenson. they didnt, and one of the biggest reasons hopkins and kovalev fought were due to the lawsuit duva dropped vs haymon that stopped hopkins vs stevenson, and lastly pascal made it clear, HE HAD 0 INTENTION ON FIGHTING FOR THE WBC SILVER TITLE THAT MANDATED THE STEVENSON SHOT vs kovalev. the wbc took that belt off the line for pascal and made it solely for kovalev if he won.

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                • SugarRaRobinson
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by tiliheels
                  look who's drinking the koolaid...are u a hbo only guy..u think hbo gives career high purses? if that is the case why is ggglem ppv? bc they couldnt/wouldnt PAY FOR IT!

                  HAYMON WAS PUTTING UP 8 MILLION FOR A PURSE BID!...KOVALEV FOUGHT FOR A PURSE BID AND SAID NO THANKS...stop blamin the black man before i kick your ass
                  Lmao , these guys think HBO is the crem dela crem , the true blue eyed Jesus of networks . Never mind the FACTS , like Floyd turning down HBO's paltry offer of 60 mil for 5 or 6 fights to run with Haymon and Ellerbe for 30mil per fight guarantee . Not to mention making more in one fight (vs PAC) that eclipsed HBO's whole 6 fight deal offered to him . HBO must have some spectacular gizz for these guys to still be drinking it after those facts .

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                  • HeroBando
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by tiliheels
                    ppl say hbo is willing to offer a career high pay day...consider that the purse bid wouls have netted him about 8 million form some sources the 3 million that pascal made is actually robbing stevenson of 5 million bucks or so...HIGHEST SCAM DAY!
                    So not only do you make up numbers you can't do basic math. 8m is another made up number, how the hell do you know what they're prepared to bid? And of course the bid covers both guys purses, its not all for Stevenson. Sorry, you got zero cred

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                    • youbeight
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
                      Lmao , these guys think HBO is the crem dela crem , the true blue eyed Jesus of networks . Never mind the FACTS , like Floyd turning down HBO's paltry offer of 60 mil for 5 or 6 fights to run with Haymon and Ellerbe for 30mil per fight guarantee . Not to mention making more in one fight (vs PAC) that eclipsed HBO's whole 6 fight deal offered to him . HBO must have some spectacular gizz for these guys to still be drinking it after those facts .
                      Side bar: but it was only a 50 mill purse purse (25 a piece) when HBO was solely covering the purses.

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