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  • #51
    Obviously the greats like monzon, robinson, Hagler, hopkins, roy..


    So others that would beat ggg IMO

    Toney would absolutely light ggg up
    Mike mccallum
    Michael nunn

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    • #52
      People (Haters) are sure obsessed with GGG.
      At the end of the day you guys don't know who would have beaten him.
      So you guys can keep speculating if it makes you feel and sleep better lol.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
        But who has Rigo fought that is better... He fought the marquee name in Donaire but we all know GGG is aiming to do that with Canelo and Cotto but does that mean he is facing the hardest test?

        Put it this way IF GGG got the Martinez fight the time Cotto did or earlier and flattened him (which he would have anyway) it wouldn't have stood for much because he missed the best years of him when he put Williams to sleep a bit like Rigo missing the best of Donaire.

        Your criteria on deciding who is worthy of rating and who isn't is messed up, maybe you should think things through a little bit more.
        So you're saying that rating fighters on the quality of their opposition is messed up and we should rate them on who they wanted to fight? I see where this fits your agenda but you must realize how utterly ****** this sounds.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
          I only said a bit, he had been through a tonne of wars tear ups with good fighters I believe the Donaire fight was a good win for him but If Golovkin beat someone like that i.e. Cotto/Canelo would that merit him to be considered in the utmost high esteem?
          I'm not sure to be honest.

          Put it this way I think Rigo would have beat Donaire in any point of Donaires career the same way I think Golovkin would have had too much for Martinez at any point of his career.
          The difference is that Rigo actually beat Donaire (no 6 p4p at the time) and ggg beat,well, no one of note. See the difference?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Killer_of_Sheep View Post
            Good list. But i don't believe Martinez, Benn or Eubanks would be able to beat GGG. I think Golovkin stops Martinez and Benn and UD's Eubanks. I wouldn't count Golovkin out against Fullmer and Leonard also.
            Like I said, no certainty, GGG certainly hast he power to stop Benn or Martinez but Martinez, in his prime, beat bigger guys in Pavlik and Chavez and destroyed Williams. People forget just hot good, quick, sharp and hard hitting a prime Martinez was. I'd pick him 9/10 times to beat GGG.

            Benn was just ferocious, a monster at times, a beast almost always. Resilient, brutal, so few fighters have fought with his anger. I'm not sure how GGG would have handled that, there hasn't been a middleweight like Benn in some 20 years or more. But he could be chin checked, he could be hurt and GGG has the power for that 50/50.

            Eubank was just good, pure and simple. He could go to war or he could be scientific and boy could the man punch, he carried that power all the way up to cruiser, when past his prime by some years, he took the fight to Thompson, a much bigger man. I can't see a way round for GGG, Eubanks chin was so good, GGG doesn't even have a punchers chance.

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            • #56
              Hagler would do him i feel aswell as roy jones and mclellan and toney and hopkins and id favour a prime taylor aswell pumping out them triple jabs

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              • #57
                Nobody said Charley Burley. Unorthodox, iron chin, counter puncher who proved he could stand up to bigger men like Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles.

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                • #58
                  There are a lot, but so what?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                    Like I said, no certainty, GGG certainly hast he power to stop Benn or Martinez but Martinez, in his prime, beat bigger guys in Pavlik and Chavez and destroyed Williams. People forget just hot good, quick, sharp and hard hitting a prime Martinez was. I'd pick him 9/10 times to beat GGG.

                    Benn was just ferocious, a monster at times, a beast almost always. Resilient, brutal, so few fighters have fought with his anger. I'm not sure how GGG would have handled that, there hasn't been a middleweight like Benn in some 20 years or more. But he could be chin checked, he could be hurt and GGG has the power for that 50/50.

                    Eubank was just good, pure and simple. He could go to war or he could be scientific and boy could the man punch, he carried that power all the way up to cruiser, when past his prime by some years, he took the fight to Thompson, a much bigger man. I can't see a way round for GGG, Eubanks chin was so good, GGG doesn't even have a punchers chance.
                    This Eubank stuff is good... Eubank would box the ears of GGG and eat his punches like they were nothing

                    Benn's power would be unlike power GGG has ever faced ,I could see Benn getting walked down I suppose but I also see Benn landing a bomb and stopping GGG in a huge upset
                    infact Benn was most dangerous when trapped against the ropes

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                    • #60
                      GGG hasn't faced the level of opposition so far that would prepare him for the likes of Hagler, Hopkins, Jones Jr, Toney, etc. He was late turning pro and has been avoided by Sturm, Martinez, Quillin, Cotto, Chavez Jr and Froch, among others. Let's see what happens in the several good years he has left before we get crazy with the fantasy match ups.

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