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  • #41
    I think Toney would definitely beat Golovkin. Golovkin didn't look that good on the inside against Murray and Monroe, and Toney excelled on the inside.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
      imo jake lamotta. and maybe hagler.

      GGG has too legendary chin, his power is incredible at middleweight, his pressure is too relentless and unforgiving, and his stamina and heart is otherworldly.


      This is laughable considering he's never took a great shot from a top fighter... we won't be able to see what his stamina is like until he is in an uncomfortable fight against an elite fighter(would have love to see him and Froch) because then we would know whats he's made of..GGG would have taken some head and heavy body shots,only then can you tell if they have that greatness within them

      Meh I dunno GGG just isn't how good people think he is... the Murray fight proved it

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Boba Fett View Post
        Toney is the guy I thought,I can't see GGG landing much in a fight with Toney and even if he Did whens Toney ever been hurt???
        Or Mc Callum for that matter. I have not seen much of him (gonna' fix that youtube permitting ) but his performance in the linked fight adds another name to the list of guys that Triple G might well lose to based on what we've seen from him so far.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Boba Fett View Post
          This is laughable considering he's never took a great shot from a top fighter... we won't be able to see what his stamina is like until he is in an uncomfortable fight against an elite fighter(would have love to see him and Froch) because then we would know whats he's made of..GGG would have taken some head and heavy body shots,only then can you tell if they have that greatness within them

          Meh I dunno GGG just isn't how good people think he is... the Murray fight proved it
          You can't be serious? That was a brutal one sided beating of a pretty good fighter who was rendered helpless. pick apart his competition, but trying to tear down his execution in those fights is irrational and quite laughable.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Boba Fett View Post
            Whos that last guy that gave GGG trouble?? the black guy with the shoe shine punches,you think that guy was on the level of Toney?

            Martin Murray gave GGG a tough fight too,he's not fit to lace up Toneys jock strap
            Do you really believe that Monroe actually gave GGG trouble? He didn't, he land one or two eye catching punches and that was all. Golovkin took a while to stop him but he wasn't ever in any kind of trouble.
            Martin Murray also didn't do anything to trouble Golovkin, just landed a couple punches here and there. He got beat-up.

            Now, against Tiberi some people believed Toney was awarded a gift decision it was a very close fight.

            Toney is not very active and doesn't move alot and is also susceptible to body shots (as his fight against Jirov showed us). He was also much more vulnerable at MW (he was knocked down and hurt against Reggie Johnson, who wasn't a big puncher).

            I don't have a clear bet on who would win, but Golovkin would be a very live dog.

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            • #46
              Hold on. So now GGG beats everybody except maybe Robinson and hagler lol?

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              • #47
                Certainty is impossible in a fantasy fight discussion but the guys who had the best chance and there are quite a few, are as follows:

                Robinson
                Monzon
                Hagler
                Leonard
                Hopkins
                Martinez
                Fullmer
                Toney
                Ezzard Charles
                Benn
                Eubank

                So, basically a lot of guys. Not because GGG is bad but because he has yet to prove himself at that level.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                  Certainty is impossible in a fantasy fight discussion but the guys who had the best chance and there are quite a few, are as follows:

                  Robinson
                  Monzon
                  Hagler
                  Leonard
                  Hopkins
                  Martinez
                  Fullmer
                  Toney
                  Ezzard Charles
                  Benn
                  Eubank

                  So, basically a lot of guys. Not because GGG is bad but because he has yet to prove himself at that level.
                  Good list. But i don't believe Martinez, Benn or Eubanks would be able to beat GGG. I think Golovkin stops Martinez and Benn and UD's Eubanks. I wouldn't count Golovkin out against Fullmer and Leonard also.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                    Martinez
                    Benn
                    Eubank
                    Nah

                    Carlos Monzon
                    Marvin Hagler
                    Bernard Hopkins
                    Sugar Ray Leonard
                    James Toney

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                    • #50
                      I'd like to see GGG vs Merqui Sosa and Thulani Malinga. These guys aren't considered greats, just good journeymen of their time, with some upset wins and questionable losses. GGG likely KO's both but I don't think it would be easy. Probably similar to Kassim Ouma but more competitive.

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