Past middleweights you're certain would beat GGG

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  • therealpugilist
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    #61
    Monzon, Hagler, Hopkins, Jones Jr., James Toney, Harry Greb, Mickey Walker, Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum, Ray Robinson, etc

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    • -Antonio-
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      #62
      I dont even need to go back that fat.

      Pavlik would have skull ****ed GGG. Even the Pavlik who stumbled around the bar throwing darts during training.

      Hell even prime JCC Jr. Would have given GGG a hard time.

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        #63
        Originally posted by soul_survivor
        Like I said, no certainty, GGG certainly hast he power to stop Benn or Martinez but Martinez, in his prime, beat bigger guys in Pavlik and Chavez and destroyed Williams. People forget just hot good, quick, sharp and hard hitting a prime Martinez was. I'd pick him 9/10 times to beat GGG.

        Benn was just ferocious, a monster at times, a beast almost always. Resilient, brutal, so few fighters have fought with his anger. I'm not sure how GGG would have handled that, there hasn't been a middleweight like Benn in some 20 years or more. But he could be chin checked, he could be hurt and GGG has the power for that 50/50.

        Eubank was just good, pure and simple. He could go to war or he could be scientific and boy could the man punch, he carried that power all the way up to cruiser, when past his prime by some years, he took the fight to Thompson, a much bigger man. I can't see a way round for GGG, Eubanks chin was so good, GGG doesn't even have a punchers chance.
        Golovkin would have beaten Martinez up. Sergio could move around big slow guys like Pavlik and Jr. He would not get past GGG. It's like people forget that even Kermit Citron had stretches where he was out boxing Martinez. He is not that hard to hit.

        The guys who would trouble GGG are the ones that would make him fight going backwards. Pavlik and Jr. Would have pushed GGG backwards and kept coming forward with punches and pressure.

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        • therealpugilist
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          #64
          Originally posted by -Antonio-
          Golovkin would have beaten Martinez up. Sergio could move around big slow guys like Pavlik and Jr. He would not get past GGG. It's like people forget that even Kermit Citron had stretches where he was out boxing Martinez. He is not that hard to hit.

          The guys who would trouble GGG are the ones that would make him fight going backwards. Pavlik and Jr. Would have pushed GGG backwards and kept coming forward with punches and pressure.
          personally I think Martinez before the leg injuries would have beat GGG quite decisively

          Martinez had some pop and he had a lot of Heart...he wasn't just gonna roll over like a lot of the guys GGG fought

          Also Martinez had proven himself facing different styles and won...whether punchers(Pavlik), Swarmers(Paul Williams), boxer-punchers(Dzinzurik), pressure fighters with power(Jr was a monster size wise and strength wise at 160


          I hate he got hurt before we could see it happen

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          • BoxingIsGreat
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            #65
            Originally posted by Killer_of_Sheep
            I find it funny people throwing Toney's name as if it was a no-brainer that he would've beaten GGG.

            He could very well do it, but its not a given. Toney always had trouble against good pressure fighters. Just look at his fights against Dave Tiberi or Merqui Sosa. Both fighters way bellow GGG's level that gave Toney hell.
            Nobody knows his level. He hasn't fought anyone of note. All hype.
            Toney would have taken him to boxing school.

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            • Nay_Sayer
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              #66
              Gerald McClellan would have lit his ass up...

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              • hugh grant
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                #67
                Originally posted by Boba Fett
                noticed a thread earlier about past prime middleweights and people were arguing about who would win GGG or Hearns/Duran/Hagler

                I'll make a poll but I don't want to forget any past greats with multiple voting so get some names going and tell me how each fight breaks down for either man,I'm sure theres some GGG fans out there that think he's the best middleweight ever aswell
                Certain to beat him, maybe a little too strong a word. But you would have to look no further than the best middleweights of all time to beat him.
                Maybe Hagler though im not sure about that. Monzon or SRR. Im sure theyd take him the distance. BH maybe could beat him. Yes how could I forget the great RJJ, and McCallum and Toney. Chris

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                • Ahmed_Ismail
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                  #68
                  Bernard Hopkins could neutralize GGG and rough him up on the inside while using his size and strength advantage.
                  Last edited by Ahmed_Ismail; 08-24-2015, 05:48 PM.

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                  • Eastcoast
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail
                    Bernard Hopkins could neutralize GGG and rough him up on the inside while using his size and strength advantage.
                    The same Bernard who lost 2x to Jermain Taylor? Prime Nard had a tough fight first time around with Echols, even got stunned a few times. I could see Golovkin losing a decision or winning by decision as Hopkins resorts to an array of dirty tricks to survive.

                    Golovkin has long incorporated wrestling techniques into his training, we simply haven't seen him deal with a Hopkins type yet. We already know he'll hit you hard on the body, hips, and legs.

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                    • richardt
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                      #70
                      I would take prime Julian Jackson in a heartbeat over GGG.

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