Can we agree in the last 5 years Floyd has been on a tear

[danceswithfire]

canelo and guerrero being on the p4p list prior to Floyd fighting them was a laughable matter really.

mosley being # 2 is questionable aswell coz marg was never in the p4p

jmm fight, we all knew what happened there

pac I can give him credit for but lets face it , that fight was 6 years too late

[IronDanHamza]

canelo and guerrero being on the p4p list prior to Floyd fighting them was a laughable matter really.

mosley being # 2 is questionable aswell coz marg was never in the p4p

jmm fight, we all knew what happened there

pac I can give him credit for but lets face it , that fight was 6 years too late

Margarito was Top 10 P4P when Shane beat him.

[krazyn8tive]

The tags for this thread are priceless. Scroll down and take a gander lmao

[b00g13man]

He's had a more impressive run to me... He also beat down two undefeated fighters aside from the three I mentioned who could have gone on to have bigger careers before they were cut down by Krusher. Sylach (sp?) and Agnew. Floyd doesn't win impressively nowadays, he just wins. And he wins unsatisfyingly.

It's not being made up or hatred projected that May has sought a pre fight advantage in every fight worth mentioning in the last 5 years. Not only that, but he has a functional in-fight advantage in the ring as well because of the paradigm shift in commentary, reffing, and judging away from actual fighting to this game of tag, catch me if you can bs.

Case in point, I am confident that the First Castillo fight would have been commentated differently if it had magically happened this year. The reason for this is Floyd "what's worst about boxing" May has introduced a freakin paradigm shift that is fully in effect now that was only barely setting in back then.

Back then he just had the judges on board, now it's commentary, judging, AND reffing

As well as securing a significant pre fight advantage each fight out, unless his opponent is sufficiently horrible not to require it.

Finito.

No they are icing on the cake of what has been a magnificent run. Kovalev only turned pro in what? 2009?

Is it not true that Kovalev has been winning in more impressive fashion than Floyd has since the lower weight classes?

P4p lists and resume comparing is all merely conjecture. As for who has been winning more impressively, that's Kovalev.

I just said p4p is conjecture and you didn't hesitate to bring it up in the next post. Classic.

Look Dan, you have an argument on paper that can't be denied.


Off it, not so much. If we leave all your "facts" and figures and security blanket lists behind, Beating down a lesser yet still worthy opponent emphatically has more worth than shoe shining and hugging a "name" to an impotent ud win.

Please, for the love of everything holy, stop embarrassing yourself.

I'm utterly confused...

You and me both.

I'm going to guess you mean Caparello.

So Caparello, Sillakh and Agnew. These are elite opponents in your eyes?

Icing on the cake? None of them were Top 10 at LHW.

Floyd can beat Top 5 guys who are reigning champions; "They're C class fighters"

Kovalev fights guys who are barely fringe contenders and aren't in the top 10; "Icing on the cake"

So what is the cake? Hopkins, Pascal and Cleverly?What kind of cake are we talking about here like one layer?

You're telling me that's better than Pacquaio, Cotto, Canelo and Mosley? Really?

Mayweather beats Pacquaio, Cotto and Mosley all reigning Champions and Top 3 in their divisons, two of them top 3 P4P;

"they're passed it"

Kovalev beats 50 year old Hopkins who's champion and Top 3 but unranked P4P;

"Amazing"

Literally makes no sense what so ever.

And for the record Kovalev e entire resume doesn't come close to Floyds resume for the past 5 years alone.

Dominating Hopkins to a UD isn't better than beating Pacqauio.

Stopping Pascal isn't better than shutting out Canelo.

Stopping Cleverly isn't better than beating Cotto.

Stopping Sillakh, Agnew, Caparello and Campillo isn't better than beating Mosley, Ortiz, Guererro and Maidana x2.

Literally no comparison between them.

If Floyd was fighting unranked fringe contenders I'd imagine he'd dominate aswell.

I can't understand how anyone can look at both resumes, and arrive at the conclusion he did. It's quite perplexing.

[Syf]

Do yourself a favor help your boxing knowledge too while you're at it.....you are freaking delusional to even compare Floyd's resume to kov's resume.

I'm not being conceited when I say, I've forgotten more than you will ever learn about the fight game. There are heads who see all the angles that see through Floyd's sad charade as of late. Ray Corso being one of them. Thing is, I used to be a big Floyd fan... Back when he was a fighter, and not a con man. But now he conducts himself, in and out of the ring, like a lying thief with no honor. Venerate him if you will. I will not.

There is no argument you can make that suggest any win on Kovalev's resume is better then Floyds in the last 5 years period.... NONE....

Impotent ud wins vs decisive demolition. A matter of taste I suppose.

Please, for the love of everything holy, stop embarrassing yourself.



You and me both.







I can't understand how anyone can look at both resumes, and arrive at the conclusion he did. It's quite perplexing.

It's like all of you are a choir singing to itself. You think because a bunch of "Floyd people" agree with each other that it somehow validates you? It doesn't. I KNOW I have a valid point about this, and I don't need anyone to validate me. That's called wisdom. I keep my own counsel, and many of you should try it, maybe just for half a day, if it doesn't make your brains implode upon themselves.

[b00g13man]

I'm not being conceited when I say, I've forgotten more than you will ever learn about the fight game. There are heads who see all the angles that see through Floyd's sad charade as of late. Ray Corso being one of them. Thing is, I used to be a big Floyd fan... Back when he was a fighter, and not a con man. But now he conducts himself, in and out of the ring, like a lying thief with no honor. Venerate him if you will. I will not.



Impotent ud wins vs decisive demolition. A matter of taste I suppose.



It's like all of you are a choir singing to itself. You think because a bunch of "Floyd people" agree with each other that it somehow validates you? It doesn't. I KNOW I have a valid point about this, and I don't need anyone to validate me. That's called wisdom. I keep my own counsel, and many of you should try it, maybe just for half a day, if it doesn't make your brains implode upon themselves.

This has got nothing to do with "agreeing with each other". There just literally isn't any sort of logic you could ever apply to arrive at the conclusion you did, yet you somehow managed it.

Loooool @ wisdom.

[jas]

Since his return


Floyd has won 2 titles at 154,a Ring title at 154 and a lineal title at 154..3 titles at 147,a Ring title at 147 and a lineal title at 147(not to mention beating Shane and not paying for that title which should be 4 titles)


He has defeated 5 top 10 p4p fighters(agree or not Ring had them there)

Mosley
Jmm
Canelo
Guerrero
Pacquiao


World champions he defeated

Mosley
Canelo
Maidana
Cotto
Pacquiao
Ortiz
(wont even mention Jmm)



Now i am done.....Haters do your job

not an impressive resume and im not trollin


none of those guys are hall of famers that were in their prime - that is not opinion, its fact so we can leave the emotion at the door and use this fact to show that its not an impressive resume

200 replies later and i just ethered the whole thread

my work here is done

[Cinci Champ]

Guererro was P4P according to The Ring when he fought Mayweather.

lets also not forget there was a time on nsb that people said floyd was ducking guerrero. think about that for a second if that doesnt show how ridiculous the hate is nothing will. people honestly thought if floyd didnt fight guerrero that he was ducking him

[Fantasiabruja]

I just watched a video of Roger Mayweather giving his take on the upcoming Cotto/Canelo fight and the guy sounded punch drunk he has a very limmited train of thought or he is just plain dumb sad. Floyd senior is just as bad or worse. So this makes me wonder if these two gentlemen are actually capable of training a world class fighter at this point in their lives, which leads me to conclude that Floyd's greatness as a fighter is bigger than we may have thought if he has been actually training himself for the last 5 years or more. Just my two cents not trolling here just an observation.

[Fantasiabruja]

For the record I am not a Mayweather fan I don't even like the man, but I have a lot of respect for what he has accomplished in boxing.