Can we agree in the last 5 years Floyd has been on a tear

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  • arraamis
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    #111
    Originally posted by Last Round Baby
    if floyds name was flint mathers and he was a white guy from youngstown Ohio he would be loved by all even if he still did everything he did
    Ouch!!!!!!!!!

    That's gonna sting ........

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    • B Phontain
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      #112
      11 pages in.....nobody can list fighters with a better resume in the last 5 years.....

      I can understand people holding floyd to a higher standard because he's that good....yet when you say floyds resume isnt impressive but you cant name one fighter who has a legitimately better resume in only five years time out of all these weight classes then something is wrong. Like really, think about that for a min.....

      one can only surmise:

      you think boxing has been in a bad state, even though we have fighters like floyd, pac, cotto, klitchko, ggg, ward, gonzales, thurman, kovalev, rigo etc.

      or, and i dont like using this overused word, your a hater and no matter who floyd fought up until now, he could never reach your expectations. I believe theres always room for criticism of any great fighters resume. But, If your seriously arguing that floyds resume would be better with margarito on it...then idk what to tell you.

      or look at it this way. Pac is generally considered #2 or #3 of this era before or behind hopkins. If the op was asking this question and floyd had pacs resume of the last five years what would you say? Seriously?

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      • Showtime..
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        #113
        Originally posted by B Phontain
        11 pages in.....nobody can list fighters with a better resume in the last 5 years.....

        I can understand people holding floyd to a higher standard because he's that good....yet when you say floyds resume isnt impressive but you cant name one fighter who has a legitimately better resume in only five years time out of all these weight classes then something is wrong. Like really, think about that for a min.....

        one can only surmise:

        you think boxing has been in a bad state, even though we have fighters like floyd, pac, cotto, klitchko, ggg, ward, gonzales, thurman, kovalev, rigo etc.

        or, and i dont like using this overused word, your a hater and no matter who floyd fought up until now, he could never reach your expectations. I believe theres always room for criticism of any great fighters resume. But, If your seriously arguing that floyds resume would be better with margarito on it...then idk what to tell you.

        or look at it this way. Pac is generally considered #2 or #3 of this era before or behind hopkins. If the op was asking this question and floyd had pacs resume of the last five years what would you say? Seriously?
        Beating Bradley, Cotto at those times. As well as Margarito eventually.
        Outclassing Barrera.

        Mayweather's resume would still be critiqued like Pacquiao's, but it would have more clear points. Wins over prime Bradley, Barrera, & Cotto

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        • Eff Pandas
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          #114
          If a boxing fan isn't impressed by Mayweather's accomplishments short or long term I'd say they are more a casual fan than a hardcore fan or just aren't capable of rational thought with Mayweather or other cats.

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          • sabonis11
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            #115
            Floyd has a pretty decent resume and has been a champ for a long, long time.

            He "might" even crack a top 20 all time p4p.. Would be really difficult to argue that he is top 10, let alone the best ever.

            I respect the guy as a fighter and a champ, but when we look back and examine fighters, it will be very difficult to look upon him as anything more than a superb defensive fighter with a slightly above average resume. Unfortunately he won't be remembered by fight fans in the way others will be.


            Let's not talk about 5 year runs, let's look at his entire body of work and compare it to other greats. When you do that, there is much to be desired.

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            • B Phontain
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              #116
              Originally posted by Showtime..
              Beating Bradley, Cotto at those times. As well as Margarito eventually.
              Outclassing Barrera.

              Mayweather's resume would still be critiqued like Pacquiao's, but it would have more clear points. Wins over prime Bradley, Barrera, & Cotto
              I mean over the last five years as the thread title. What would you really be saying if floyd resume had rios, then algeri on it? an even older molsey, an older jmm the bradley that went life and death with prov?.....look at the talk about him fighting berto. You really think it would have more clear points?

              like i said i completely understand critiquing a great fighter. Wanting more from a fighter in an opinion is cool to an extent. but acting like his resume is boo boo when nobody can name one better is crazy to me

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                #117
                Originally posted by B Phontain
                I mean over the last five years as the thread title. What would you really be saying if floyd resume had rios, then algeri on it? an even older molsey, an older jmm the bradley that went life and death with prov?.....look at the talk about him fighting berto. You really think it would have more clear points?

                like i said i completely understand critiquing a great fighter. Wanting more from a fighter in an opinion is cool to an extent. but acting like his resume is boo boo when nobody can name one better is crazy to me
                Ohh I'm not saying it sucks. Obviously a Top 2 resume since 2010. It's just very nitpickable.
                Nobody else but Pacquiao compares and he's lost twice. (IMO he beat Floyd & Bradley, but let's say 2).

                You know what I'm too tired to compare lol
                Have a good one :P

                This thread gonna go on TOO long

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                • El-blanco
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by B Phontain
                  I mean over the last five years as the thread title. What would you really be saying if floyd resume had rios, then algeri on it? an even older molsey, an older jmm the bradley that went life and death with prov?.....look at the talk about him fighting berto. You really think it would have more clear points?

                  like i said i completely understand critiquing a great fighter. Wanting more from a fighter in an opinion is cool to an extent. but acting like his resume is boo boo when nobody can name one better is crazy to me
                  The fact that Floyd has one of the best resumes of the last five years shows you how terrible boxing has become lately. The only two I can think of that are better is wlad, due to activity and Bradley. Bradley beat;
                  Prime abregu
                  Prime Devon who beat Maidana
                  Pre ktfo pac
                  Post ktfo marquez
                  Providnikov
                  Vargas

                  I'd argue that's a better resume. When you consider Fernando Vargas fought Ike quarter, winky, and Tito in the span of 12 months, it's easy to see how watered down this era is. Certainly not Floyd's fault, it's actually sad that his resume is arguably the best of the last five years.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Showtime..
                    Beating Bradley, Cotto at those times. As well as Margarito eventually.
                    Outclassing Barrera.

                    Mayweather's resume would still be critiqued like Pacquiao's, but it would have more clear points. Wins over prime Bradley, Barrera, & Cotto
                    And this clown was talking about taking things at "face value" then goes ahead and names shot to **** unranked Margarito and labels Cotto as "prime"

                    Get a clue and learn what the word ironic means.

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                    • b00g13man
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                      #120
                      Still waiting to hear someone who has done better the last 5 years...

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