Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Explains Situation With Andre Ward

[Beater_of_ass]

GGG 170 in his last 2 fights
Canelo 172, Trout 171 for a SWW fight

And your point is?

[HeroBando]

It's Sickening watching GGG fans pretend like GGG's options r soooo plentiful and Wards r so dried up . after Lemioux , he has Canelo , when Canelo gets ready , cause we all know Cotto won't fight him . Ward has Kov anytime he wants and is ready , degale possibly at 168 or Chudinov . Haters keep highlighting Wards recent "Can" fight , and this next "Can" . No mention that GGG last 15 have ALL been cans .

Too bad Ward doesn't want Kovalev. Instead it'll be some bum like Periban on an undercard. At least GGG sells tickets and does great ratings on HBO vs his bums (of higher class than Periban and Smith), and now is headlining a PPV.

[HeroBando]

And your point is?

Uh I responded to your bull****:

"Kill yourself making weight and just utilize your size to win fights."

Turns out many SWWs are heavier fight night.

[Najuk]

He's a top 10 p4p fighter for sure. He hasn't beaten the best competition but he's beaten the **** out of everyone in front of him. It doesn't matter anyway, it's an opinion so most people feel that way regardless and the should see the best fight the best. Instead the just want to see GGG fight smaller guys because they feel he can't lose that way.

Who is to argue with him? That's how Vladimir has made a living and that's who controls GGG. That's how Broner became well known, that's how Chavez Jr won fights. Kill yourself making weight and just utilize your size to win fights. GGG is not a small or average size MW, he's a short MW and nothing else. They just use the "his small" to duck Ward.

how can you be big mw but short? is ggg fat or what?Macklin, Geale, Monroe and GGG have same height(5,10). All these guys are average mw but ggg is big ?

[2shameless]

And your point is?

Well you claimed that GGG is not a small MW, even though he's smaller than 2 top SWWs. You claimed GGG is ducking Ward, even though he comes into the ring lighter than the last weight Ward fought at. GGG has offered to fight Floyd at 154. Ward won't even consider 167.

You want a competitive fight between 2 top p4p fighters? Kovalev/Ward can easily be made and neither have a fight scheduled.

[thatdudespits]

He's a top 10 p4p fighter for sure. He hasn't beaten the best competition but he's beaten the **** out of everyone in front of him. It doesn't matter anyway, it's an opinion so most people feel that way regardless and the should see the best fight the best. Instead the just want to see GGG fight smaller guys because they feel he can't lose that way.

Who is to argue with him? That's how Vladimir has made a living and that's who controls GGG. That's how Broner became well known, that's how Chavez Jr won fights. Kill yourself making weight and just utilize your size to win fights. GGG is not a small or average size MW, he's a short MW and nothing else. They just use the "his small" to duck Ward.

I don't see how Golovkin can be considered P4P.... his Resume is weak, he been fighting at the same weight for his entire career. I don't think KOing cab drivers merits p4p recognition. If that were the case Matthysse would have been P4P pre Danny Garcia. He wasn't on ring magazines or anyone else's p4p list at that time.

A guy like Kovalev deserves his spot because he earned it with hopkins and pascal.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

I certainly am NOT. I hate catchweights PERIOD.

There is however a distinction to be made between someone demanding one WITHIN THE SAME DIVISION THEY HOLD A TITLE IN, and someone throwing one out there to someone in a higher division.

That being said, my position has ALWAYS been that if GGG ever fights Ward, it should be at 168, period. If they want to dangle catchweight offers in order to get a better revenue split, or venue, thats fine, but the fight needs to be at 168.


But if you want to compare the Cotto and GGG scenarios, what Cotto is doing would be the same thing as if GGG fought someone other than Ward at 168, won a title, and then demanded a 164 fight with Ward in a 168 unification, claiming "im not a real super middle doe"....

The only distinction is the title, there's no difference in catch weights. A catch weight is a smaller fighters request of a bigger fighter to drop a few pounds to make the fight a little more even on the scales. Catch weights are traditionally won by the more skilled fighter, whether that fighter is going up in weight or down. People say oh he wants the advantage that's why hes requesting a catch weight, that's simply not true when you look at the majority of catch weights, the weight played no role in the victory as the better fighter mostly still wins. GGG dropping 3 pounds to fight Cotto is not a big deal, just like Hopkins dropping 3 pounds to fight DLH wasn't a big deal, Hopkins still won, at an older age no less. I have never been a fan of catch weights but it gets us the fights we want to see, and Cotto vs. GGG is one of those fights, Ward vs GGG is another, Canelo vs Chavez jr is another. All these fights look to be heading to Catch weights if they did happen, and I wouldn't be angry about it.

[Tobi.G]

Why does he need to drop to 164 but Froch and Chavez Jr didnt? there is no way around that man

Havent you read the article? It says a fight vs. Chavez Jr. or Froch would be reasonable fights at 168 because they could make a nice PPV. Ward on the other Hand is irrelevant right now. He cant even sell out on his backyard because no one want to see him fight. It makes no sence doing such a risky fight if it is not selling.

[thatdudespits]

The only distinction is the title, there's no difference in catch weights. A catch weight is a smaller fighters request of a bigger fighter to drop a few pounds to make the fight a little more even on the scales. Catch weights are traditionally won by the more skilled fighter, whether that fighter is going up in weight or down. People say oh he wants the advantage that's why hes requesting a catch weight, that's simply not true when you look at the majority of catch weights, the weight played no role in the victory as the better fighter mostly still wins. GGG dropping 3 pounds to fight Cotto is not a big deal, just like Hopkins dropping 3 pounds to fight DLH wasn't a big deal, Hopkins still won, at an older age no less. I have never been a fan of catch weights but it gets us the fights we want to see, and Cotto vs. GGG is one of those fights, Ward vs GGG is another, Canelo vs Chavez jr is another. All these fights look to be heading to Catch weights if they did happen, and I wouldn't be angry about it.

If people want to get rid of catchweights bring back same day weigh ins to prevent larger fighters from dehydrating themselves to shrink down to an unnatural weight to possess a size advantage. Same day Weigh ins would eliminate catch weights completely.

[twosweethooks]

****ing Pac stans. They never disappoint.

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