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  • #61
    Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth View Post
    This guy is a bum that got beat by Rubio. I wont even waste my time on this idiot.
    And he came back an won a legit Middleweight belt vs a none crippled fighter at the real middleweight limit of 160 pounds.

    When was the last time Cotto fought a guy who wasnt a cripple and at a catchweight? Let me tell you, he lost to Austin Trout.

    Why do you even waste your breath on a catchweight Diva who won his belt by draining an old cripple and who got totally outboxed by a bum in Austin Trout?

    Lemieux is a man, Cotto is a pussay.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Alpha & Omega View Post
      This is a thread about Cotto/Lemieux and of course Pac and Floyd come up lol. Floyd used a few catchweights and Pac used more than anyone...he is the catchweight King without a doubt. Cotto is now becoming like his stablemate Pac and using them 24/7.

      Lemieux is right, Cotto is full of it. He made a mistake this time though because Canelo is more of a JMW so the catchweight won't do much.
      Pacquiao has moved up 9 divisions only started using catch weights in 8th division fights...
      Last edited by MisanthropicNY; 08-19-2015, 07:07 AM.

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      • #63
        This is my take on catchweights. I have no issues with it when used to even the playing field between 2 figthers who are 1 weight class apart. For example...When Pac faced Margarito. Margarito spent the majority of his career at WW therefore a catchweight was justified and did not drain or hurt Margarito to come down a few lbs. Come fight night Pac weighed 148lbs while Margarito weighed 165lbs. So who had the advantage??

        Cotto/Canelo is another fight where I have no issue with the cw. Neither fighter is a full fledged MW therefore there's no sacrifice to either fighter by having to make a specified cw. The fight is being held at 155 which falls within MW territory. Just because the fighters arent weighing in at the full limit does not mean it isnt a MW fight. MW is from 154.01 - 160.

        Where I do have a problem is when its being used to purposely gain an advantage on an opponent and even then there's some grey area because if the opponent feels uncomfortable making a specified weight, then dont take the fight only to cry about it after.

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        • #64
          i dont think cotto is scared anymore then ggg is scared of ward i think its more him just being realistic about the situation. i get why people say he should just get rid of the belt but can you honestly blame him for milking it?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Cinci Champ View Post
            i dont think cotto is scared anymore then ggg is scared of ward i think its more him just being realistic about the situation. i get why people say he should just get rid of the belt but can you honestly blame him for milking it?
            GGG/Cotto is a more realistic fight than GGG/Ward.

            - Cotto does fight in the MW division

            - GGG doesnt fight in the SMW divison

            - Cotto and GGG are only about 4-5lbs apart on where they weight in

            - GGG and Ward are 12lbs apart from where they weigh in

            - Cotto has a MW strap that he's holding hostage too and is GGG's mandatory

            - GGG doesnt have a SMW strap that he's holding hostage and isnt Wards mandatory.


            Winner of Cotto/Canelo should face GGG while Ward should face off with Kovalev as they are only 3lbs apart.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Jubei View Post
              And he came back an won a legit Middleweight belt vs a none crippled fighter at the real middleweight limit of 160 pounds.

              When was the last time Cotto fought a guy who wasnt a cripple and at a catchweight? Let me tell you, he lost to Austin Trout.

              Why do you even waste your breath on a catchweight Diva who won his belt by draining an old cripple and who got totally outboxed by a bum in Austin Trout?

              Lemieux is a man, Cotto is a pussay.
              Just ignore them, man. They will say anything to degrade Golovkin's achievements . They act like all time greats like Pacquiao and Hagler never lost to random names early on in their career.

              They neglect the fact that Lemieux was like 22 years old and had a different trainer. The Rubio fight was stopped by Lemieux's corner. The dude gassed out early on trying to KO Rubio.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                GGG/Cotto is a more realistic fight than GGG/Ward.

                - Cotto does fight in the MW division

                - GGG doesnt fight in the SMW divison

                - Cotto and GGG are only about 4-5lbs apart on where they weight in

                - GGG and Ward are 12lbs apart from where they weigh in

                - Cotto has a MW strap that he's holding hostage too and is GGG's mandatory

                - GGG doesnt have a SMW strap that he's holding hostage and isnt Wards mandatory.


                Winner of Cotto/Canelo should face GGG while Ward should face off with Kovalev as they are only 3lbs apart.
                Amen! Same here!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic View Post
                  Cotto would of gotten major props if he wouldn't play the drain game. that and the Martinez inactivity/surgery.

                  You should know about catch weights. You were against it when it was done to Cotto. Remember 1 pound makes a big difference.
                  Always complains about CW's... his fighter fighter would win the MW title at 155 against the worlds smallest MW. The irony lol.

                  And it's Cotto going down to Canelo weight... I'm sure you gave Hopkins ALL the **** in the world for fighting DLH at 156 right?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
                    Always complains about CW's... his fighter fighter would win the MW title at 155 against the worlds smallest MW. The irony lol.

                    And it's Cotto going down to Canelo weight... I'm sure you gave Hopkins ALL the **** in the world for fighting DLH at 156 right?
                    I complain about CWs because they take away the credibility of the win. To a stan, maybe not, but to me it does. What Canelo has done through his career, I criticize Hopkins.

                    Actually I did and have complained about DLH with the catch weight. Especially when he won a belt at the weight. How many times do I have to tell you people? Oh and the catch weight was at 157 but Hopkins came in one pound lighter.


                    Seriously dude. You're a stan. I only reply to you because you make me laugh. I know my words mean little because your heart is already so deep in love with a boxer who most likely doesn't give two shits about you. His team probably sent you a tshirt and you went crazy for Cotto. Or is it the flag?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic View Post
                      I complain about CWs because they take away the credibility of the win. To a stan, maybe not, but to me it does. What Canelo has done through his career, I criticize Hopkins.

                      Actually I did and have complained about DLH with the catch weight. Especially when he won a belt at the weight. How many times do I have to tell you people? Oh and the catch weight was at 157 but Hopkins came in one pound lighter.


                      Seriously dude. You're a stan. I only reply to you because you make me laugh. I know my words mean little because your heart is already so deep in love with a boxer who most likely doesn't give two shits about you. His team probably sent you a tshirt and you went crazy for Cotto. Or is it the flag?
                      That was a long reply to call me stan, your typical response.

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