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  • Beater_of_ass
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    #91
    Originally posted by icha
    yep, that is why they wanted the cotto fight so bad, no need for judges on this one...
    He already paid for it to be in Vegas... you don't think he paid the judges already too?

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    • mezoomozaa
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      #92
      Cotto was like a hyena, he dared to take the chance to take his career to a new height, literally revived his career, and came back to where he belongs. I don't blame him, and give him the full credit, Mayweather and many other fighters at Junior middle weight wouldn't dare to fight 40-year-old Martinez.

      Miguel, the hyena, Cotto!

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        #93
        Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
        At the age of 36 Hopkins weighed in at 157 lbs in a middleweight bout in which he completely annihilated Felix "Tito" Trinidad. Geale 32 weighed in at an agreed upon maximum of 157 lbs, in which he entered the ring almost at cruiser weight, do you know why he lost? Its called skill, he would have gotten knocked out at any weight. If he couldn't make the weight he should have never agreed to it.

        Oh yeah and another cool FACT, De La Hoya fought Hopkins, wait for it..... De La Hoya and Hopkins fought at an agreed upon catch weight of 157 lbs, in which Hopkins defeated DLH with a single body shot. It's called skill. Don't agree to the weight if you cant make it.

        "...Sugar Ray Leonard came up with a bizarre deal to fight for both the WBC super middle and light heavyweight belts in what HBO analyst Larry Merchant called "a gimmick fight." Leonard specified that light heavyweight titleholder Donny Lalonde (who had weighed 173.4 when he won the title) could not weigh more than 168-pounds, the limit for the newly created super middleweight division."

        "...Roberto Duran sprinkled his record with catchweight bouts throughout his lengthy lightweight reign. One of them cost him his unbeaten record, when Esteban De Jesus won a 10-round decision in November 1972. The loss didn't hurt his career or reputation one iota. It created a lucrative rivalry between "Manos de Piedra" and his Puerto Rican rival, setting up two subsequent title fights, both won by Duran."

        As was the case in Shawn Porter's victory over Adrien Broner, catchweight bouts have been historically won by the more skilled fighter and nothing else.


        DUN DUN DUN...The more you know....
        Catchweights are rubbish !

        All of those wins are tainted.

        The fact that I can start a discussion by saying that every single one of those wins are tainted..... proves it to be so.

        Congratulations on your floor-level standards.

        FACT: catchweights are completely unnecessary.,.... so the fact that you have lowered your standards unnecessarily is amusing to me.

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          #94
          knick.....

          In your opinion..... is Leonard a genuine LHW champ ?

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            #95
            Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
            He already paid for it to be in Vegas... you don't think he paid the judges already too?
            why pay judges, it aint going to last 12..

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              #96
              Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
              So your answer to catchweight is they agreed to it... not the fact that catchweights usually will negatively effect the fighter making him weaker in an extremely important fight for him. Yeah, I guess you have all the feking answers, eh? SMH


              Why would someone drop their standards unnecessarily ?

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                #97
                Originally posted by bklynboy
                No. There isn't any minimum weight for a division. Lomo or Rigo can take on Cotto or GGG for the middleweight title. The weight class states that you cannot weigh more than 160 at time of weigh-in. (Which I think should be same day as the fight.)

                The JR divisions are catch-weights in my opinion. And yes - many people criticized Manny for demanding catch-weights. Anybody that wasn't a Pac nut-hugger thought it was crazy.

                There have always been catch-weights but I think we've jumped the shark with them the last few years.
                They are obviously being abused.

                OBVIOUSLY !

                Some fans have very low standards/expectations.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  Catchweights are rubbish !

                  All of those wins are tainted.

                  The fact that I can start a discussion by saying that every single one of those wins are tainted..... proves it to be so.

                  Congratulations on your floor-level standards.

                  FACT: catchweights are completely unnecessary.,.... so the fact that you have lowered your standards unnecessarily is amusing to me.
                  FACT your an idiot. Boxing historians, Hall of Fame, Legends don't view catch weight wins as tainted. Who made you the authority on the standard of boxing? You are in the minority, real boxing fans don't care about catch weights, they just want to see a good scrap.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    knick.....

                    In your opinion..... is Leonard a genuine LHW champ ?
                    I don't decide who is a legitimate or genuine champ for that matter neither do you, the sanctioning body does. I watch boxing. If you don't like it don't watch. Very simple.
                    Last edited by KnickTillDeaTh; 08-19-2015, 03:30 PM.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by icha
                      why pay judges, it aint going to last 12..
                      Wow, I have more faith in Canelo's chin than you do eh? Even I didn't think that much of the fat brother Cotto left hook. Have some faith bruh.

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