How Oscar Revived GBP After Being Buried

[Eff Pandas]

I honestly think the culture of the US prefers team centered sports. I know they attempted this with the World Series of Boxing program, but it didn't have the right feel and format.

I think boxing could use a "team" type of format, but it would have to be promotional stables as the "team". Events could be set up between promoters to clash and be billed as (for example) Team Top Rank vs Team Golden Boy. There should be a regular season and an off season. The off season could be used to recruit talent and trade players (fighters). Giving American casual fans a team to root for could create the culture. There would have to be some type of point system during these events for a winning/losing record to be maintained, with the top teams meeting at the end of the season for a real "Super Bowl of boxing".

But for this to work, I think promoters would have to be limited to a certain number of fighters per division, to ensure that there aren't in-house fights after in-house fights that we tend to get with this open market.

Granted, there needs to be a division within the stable, like minor leage and major league, so that the new pro fighters can build their resume. It would have to also be understood that your stable mates are your team, and that everyone is all in together.

I don't know, I think something like this could work if done right. It would be cool to see fighters get traded to other promoters or become free agents like in other team sports during an off season.

I think a team angle to such a strongly individual sport is a horrible move. The WSB works for amateur (or semi-pro or w/e you wanna call the WSB), but I don't believe it translates to the pros.

I've been a fan of a tier system like Sumo Wrestling uses for a long time. The biggest problem with boxing imho, even more than all the titles & the corruption & promoters, is the competitiveness.

I think if you broke up boxers into different talent tiers & moved guys up & down tiers as they won or loss fights (what moves or drops guys could be debated endlessly), boxing would have a much larger % of competitive fights at all levels of the game which should eventually get more people coming to shows at all levels of the game & it'd make anyone in the premier tier to be battle tested like a mofo.

Quality control of the product is one of the things sorely missed in boxing. A casual fan knows he's going to a Double A baseball game or a MLB game, but he doesn't have a clue he's going to a Single A boxing event or a Elite Boxing League event. Thats a problem imo.

[Eff Pandas]

I seriously doubt Haymon is as smart as NSB posters.

lol, obviously.

[Weebler I]

Well Lemieux is about to get bombed out, so that revival is short lived. Matthysse-Crawford is the way Oscar should go if he's serious about making the best fights.

I'm sure he'd love to have made that fight, but convincing Arum is another matter. Bob doesn't like taking Ls.

[-PBP-]

Boxing fans used to accept less sterling records too. This new era of 0's hasn't been the reality forever. I think if there was an elite league in boxing the guys in that league could have lesser records than guys have now cuz fighting in that league would mean that a fighter is of a certain talent level just to be there so being 7-3 in that league would be superior than 10-0 out of it.

Crazy story. I text boxing with my 11 year old sister who I got into the sport. We were watching Garcia vs. Paulie and she texts me "why are all of the boxers undefeated?"

[Pigeons]

I'm sure he'd love to have made that fight, but convincing Arum is another matter. Bob doesn't like taking Ls.

It was De La Hoya that said he wasn't interested in that fight following Matthysse-Provodnikov.

[Weebler I]

It was De La Hoya that said he wasn't interested in that fight following Matthysse-Provodnikov.

Link? ..............

[Mitchell Kane]

Well Lemieux is about to get bombed out, so that revival is short lived. Matthysse-Crawford is the way Oscar should go if he's serious about making the best fights.

Pretty sure Arum would be less inclined than DLH to make Matthysse-Crawford.

That seemed to be the case with Timothy Bradley and Sadam Ali, as well.

As for what was said after Matthysse-Provodnikov...that was back when DLH/Matthysse were talkign about Pacquiao, but that fight just ain't happening.

[Pigeons]

Link? ..............

It was a video. He said he wanted Pacquiao not Crawford for Mathysse. How about Matthysse-Crawford for a shot at Pacquiao?

[LADIV]

You look at it as revival, I look at it as cashing out. Lucas is the only one winning of the three fights. Hell, Lucas is the only A-side for Golden Boy on the three cards as well.

Haymon and Schaefer ****ed Oscar pretty badly.

oscar got a millions of dollars to settle with schaffer...he is not gonna go broke anytime soon...

[-Hyperion-]

Fu(k Ross Greenburg/Kery Davis, if they hadn't spent HBO's budget in the mid to late 00's bidding against themselves to buy into the undefeated bull****, the sport would be in a better place.