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  • Hougigo
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    #101
    Originally posted by Beercules
    HouDawg just made 100$
    We all know he's not gonna do it

    I couldn't even get my sig space from the thunderdome

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    • Scipio2009
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      #102
      Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
      What has Jacobs done to make you believe he's better than guys like Murray, Geale and hell, even guys like Macklin? Got KO'd by Pirog, dropped by Sergio Mora and barely squeaked by Ishe Smith? I just don't see a very good fighter when I watch him fight and I've been watching him since he was just an up & comer, I keep waiting for him to improve but it just hasn't happened. He is what he is at this point.

      Regarding Lee, Quillin didn't beat him! He got a draw in a fight where both fighters were terrified to throw any punches. Quillin doesn't get much credit for earning a draw against the guy.
      Martin Murray's claim to fame is being the "almost" man, with Macklin in a similar spot of coming up short (Geale's resume has some decent scalps on it); could ask the same question of the fighters you seem to believe are for sure better than Jacobs.

      Beyond that, have you actually watched the Jacobs-Pirog fight? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEwZweDnRPI

      Jacobs was fighting Pirog on even terms, arguably winning Rounds 1,3, and 4, before getting wrecked in the 5th round (off of a beautiful shot, no less); to hear you tell it, one would imagine that Pirog was savaging Jacobs for five rounds, with the ref saving him in the 5th.

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      • ИATAS
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        #103
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        Name a Golovkin year that would better. I wouldn't use that year to put Quillin into an ATG conversation (which Golovkin fans have done with less), but it'd **** on any year put forward by Golovkin (if he was able to end up beating Jacobs).

        2015: Murray, Monroe Jr, Lemieux
        2014: Adama, Geale, Rubio
        2013: Rosado, Ishida, Macklin, Stevens
        2012: Fuchigami, Proksa
        2011: Ouma, Simon

        Laugh about the "playboy bunny" stuff all you want, that's the fight that Quillin is likely sandwiching between two fights against actual top competition (Cotto/Golovkin/Quillin/Lee are the clear top 4 fighters at 160 and Jacobs is somewhere in that second class of top 10 fighters)
        Well there you go, you just did the world. CLEARLY 2015 is a better year. Actually beating Murray is much better than getting a draw against Lee, and Lemieux is an actual real title holder which is better than fighting Jacobs (which remains to be seen if that will actually even happen this year).

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          #104
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          Martin Murray's claim to fame is being the "almost" man, with Macklin in a similar spot of coming up short (Geale's resume has some decent scalps on it); could ask the same question of the fighters you seem to believe are for sure better than Jacobs.

          Beyond that, have you actually watched the Jacobs-Pirog fight? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEwZweDnRPI

          Jacobs was fighting Pirog on even terms, arguably winning Rounds 1,3, and 4, before getting wrecked in the 5th round (off of a beautiful shot, no less); to hear you tell it, one would imagine that Pirog was savaging Jacobs for five rounds, with the ref saving him in the 5th.
          Getting shafted the decision against the lineal title holder in Martinez in Argentina is more impressive than anything Jacobs has done.

          And yes I watched Pirog KO Jacobs live, I had Pirog winning I disagreed with the judges but even so, YOU DON'T GET CREDIT FOR WINNING ON THE CARDS WHEN YOU GET KTFO! Lol what a dumb argument! Jacobs was winning on the cards before he got knocked out cold in the 5th round! lol it went 5 rounds total, not 10, not 12, 5!

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            #105
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            The audience tuning in for Quillin's fight wouldn't know the difference De La Rosa and Zerafa and, frankly, I'm not all that sure the actual fights would be all that different either (haven't seen the actual fight but De La Rosa losing his last fight by KO, according to BoxRec, doesn't much help the expectations).
            Thats a valid argument. I brought up my assumption that these fights aren't even for "us" really in my post & I think you are kinda saying that too. I still say I think odds are a more proven entity like De La Rosa who also is of the favored nationality in boxing & has a win over a guy some casuals & hardcores alike will now is gonna be of more benefit overall with ratings & entertainment value than a unknown entity like Zerafa an overwhelming majority of the time is where I'm coming from with my stance.

            Also, for all the talk of the "Battle for Ohio", people didn't notice that Shawn Porter has never had an actual professional fight in the state of Ohio, with Broner only having 3 of his last 11 fights in Ohio (13 of his 32 total fights in Ohio).
            Or lets just not call it the battle of Ohio maybe is what I'm thinking. I'm a fan of PBC, a "**** rider" of PBC based on some peoples opinions here, but they are doing some dumb ****. And this was one of them. Maybe that fight in Ohio is the beginning of building up a base in that region that will get Porter &/or Broner fighting there more often idk, but it seemed ill named or ill placed whichever you prefer. Its no major mistake mind you, but its just a slew of lil dumb **** that undermines their impact in a marketplace that isn't a fan of change.

            Would definitely like to continue to see bigger and bigger fights (Quillin-Jacobs, Fonfara-Cleverly, Quillin-Jacobs, Thurman-Porter, possibly Garcia-Khan II, and a host of other intriguing fights are being discussed for the coming Fall), but I think the doom-and-gloom is a bit excessive (even the Frampton debut in Texas made sense to me, as you'd be positioning Frampton to debut at a reasonable TV air time in Northern Ireland on a stage where he was basically guaranteed a quality crowd, thanks to fighting a Mexican in a Mexican border town on the same night and at the same venue as one of Mexico's biggest star fighters).

            There's a conversation to be had, and I'm glad to have that conversation.
            No question doom & gloom is winning the day among boxing forums. I think they've put on a number of good fights vs the amount of good fights everyone else is putting on. Therefore the doom & gloom isn't warranted, but its gonna take a long time to get them on board & some will surely never come aboard.
            Last edited by Eff Pandas; 08-08-2015, 03:56 PM.

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              #106
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              Martin Murray's claim to fame is being the "almost" man, with Macklin in a similar spot of coming up short (Geale's resume has some decent scalps on it); could ask the same question of the fighters you seem to believe are for sure better than Jacobs.

              Beyond that, have you actually watched the Jacobs-Pirog fight? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEwZweDnRPI

              Jacobs was fighting Pirog on even terms, arguably winning Rounds 1,3, and 4, before getting wrecked in the 5th round (off of a beautiful shot, no less); to hear you tell it, one would imagine that Pirog was savaging Jacobs for five rounds, with the ref saving him in the 5th.
              You got my money yet or nah?

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              • Eastcoast
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                #107
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                Beyond that, have you actually watched the Jacobs-Pirog fight? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEwZweDnRPI

                Jacobs was fighting Pirog on even terms, arguably winning Rounds 1,3, and 4, before getting wrecked in the 5th round (off of a beautiful shot, no less); to hear you tell it, one would imagine that Pirog was savaging Jacobs for five rounds, with the ref saving him in the 5th.
                Get out of here with even terms... You need to rewatch the fight. It was man vs boy scenario, with Danny getting schooled. Pirog was dodging & blocking so much of Danny's offense it was a one sided fight.

                Only even round in that fight was round 3 when not much happened. Round 1 Pirog was blocking and dodging the vast majority of Danny's shots, and nailing him with some solid counters, especially that big left. Round 2, Pirog nearly floors Danny 2x in the first minute and from there on Danny stayed on the backfoot. Round 4, it becomes clear Pirog isn't worried about Danny's power and starts toying with him in spots and towards the end increases his pressure on Danny, all the while Danny's not landing anything to get Pirog to go back. Round 5 Pirog picks right up where he left off with the extra pressure and setups Danny up for the KO at the 60 sec mark.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Eastcoast
                  Get out of here with even terms... You need to rewatch the fight. It was man vs boy scenario, with Danny getting schooled. Pirog was dodging & blocking so much of Danny's offense it was a one sided fight.

                  Only even round in that fight was round 3 when not much happened. Round 1 Pirog was blocking and dodging the vast majority of Danny's shots, and nailing him with some solid counters, especially that big left. Round 2, Pirog nearly floors Danny 2x in the first minute and from there on Danny stayed on the backfoot. Round 4, it becomes clear Pirog isn't worried about Danny's power and starts toying with him in spots and towards the end increases his pressure on Danny, all the while Danny's not landing anything to get Pirog to go back. Round 5 Pirog picks right up where he left off with the extra pressure and setups Danny up for the KO at the 60 sec mark.

                  Just let it go, its obvious the man's just not going to take Jacobs' **** out of his mouth.

                  He loves him so much hes actually trying to sell Alfalfa here as not a cherrypick picking someone from the audience fight. And hes trying to sell this not to casuals, but in a forum full of boxing enthusiasts and fans, no less.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
                    Well there you go, you just did the world. CLEARLY 2015 is a better year. Actually beating Murray is much better than getting a draw against Lee, and Lemieux is an actual real title holder which is better than fighting Jacobs (which remains to be seen if that will actually even happen this year).
                    Yep, Murray seems to have been totally ignored. He was the legitimate unified 160 champion but was the victim of robberies in Germany and Argentina. I think Murray would give Cotto a good fight at 160, may even beat him.

                    I'd rank him as the 3rd best middleweight at the time of GGG beating him.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by glenn mcrory
                      Just let it go, its obvious the man's just not going to take Jacobs' **** out of his mouth.

                      He loves him so much hes actually trying to sell Alfalfa here as not a cherrypick picking someone from the audience fight. And hes trying to sell this not to casuals, but in a forum full of boxing enthusiasts and fans, no less.
                      Jacobs??? Who is that??

                      Is that Dmitry Pirog's unwanted interacial son you are referring to?

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