Comments Thread For: Team Beterbiev's Response To Kovalev's Promoter

[Bep3373]

Has nothing to do with the money. Just turned down a shot at the championship and a payday 2-3 times what he making now. Instead wants to fight for eliminator to force a purse bid so they can win the championship by vacate. Shameful and completely transparent move by Haymon

Al ...nowhere did it mention Al ...oh I forgot he's the boogeyman

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if flat out saying "thank you your offer was fair and we challenged you to begin with but now we changed our minds cuz it looks hard" isn't a duck then what is exactly

the term must have no meaning

[Bep3373]

Another Al Haymon duck special. Haymon's in-house bouts continue...

This guy looks me ...but to make you geek better here's 2 facts Floyd fight Castillo with a real torn rotator cuff ...you can actually see him getting rubbed down and complaining unlike that other fraud ...Castillo could've been easily been called a draw ...or went either way...there's 1 or 2 off balls in the pros who think PAC won ...98 percent of their peers , media outlets , and non *******s know it was one of Floyd's easiest fights at 38...at 36 (pacs age) he was fighting bigger maidana and canelo

[Bep3373]

if flat out saying "thank you your offer was fair and we challenged you to begin with but now we changed our minds cuz it looks hard" isn't a duck then what is exactly

the term must have no meaning

I doubt he's scared he beat him twice in amateurs

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Al ...nowhere did it mention Al ...oh I forgot he's the boogeyman

beterbiev has an "advisory" (aka lubes up the rules with money and arranges fights with bums) agreement haymon and his promoter GYM (Groupe Yvon Michel) has basically become the al haymon subsidiary in canada

yes he's involved

why are you weirdos such fans of a guy who does not box

do you run up to random costco sales managers and ask for their autograph

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I doubt he's scared he beat him twice in amateurs

yeah that was the narrative of why he wants kovalev ASAP and wants to prove it was no fluke etc etc etc

then when the fight is offered he suddenly changes his mind

haymon pays his guys to not take fights until the time is right, it's not some big secret, look up peter quillin turning down a career high payday because al had other plans

perhaps he's not "scared" like a teenage girl but he and yvon/haymon obviously isn't very confident in his chances of victory either, they're taking the let it simmer like it's my last fight approach

kovalev is the opposite and has risen to the top of his division by fighting (formerly) bigger names for peanuts

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

I would love to see this fight, but this situation clearly shows how desperate Kovalev's people are for any meaningful fight. The fact that he's hounding a 9-0 guy and his team is pissed off that a 9-0 guy won't fight them. I can't remember any other time where a promoter with a unified 175-pound champion, a guy with 3 belts, is furious because a 9-0 guy who in all respects is still a prospect, won't fight them because he wants another fight to prepare. The problem is, his promoter locked him in to this HBO deal with no opponents ready to go. Why else would he be fighting on a date in November in Moscow, Russia with no American TV?

[From Russia]

I would love to see this fight, but this situation clearly shows how desperate Kovalev's people are for any meaningful fight. The fact that he's hounding a 9-0 guy and his team is pissed off that a 9-0 guy won't fight them. I can't remember any other time where a promoter with a unified 175-pound champion, a guy with 3 belts, is furious because a 9-0 guy who in all respects is still a prospect, won't fight them because he wants another fight to prepare. The problem is, his promoter locked him in to this HBO deal with no opponents ready to go. Why else would he be fighting on a date in November in Moscow, Russia with no American TV?

Artur is from Chechnya and chechenian president Akhmat Kadyrov is very rich (he probably has more money than Al Haymon, Bob Arum and Ryabinsky together) and a huge fan of the sport, you could see him at every moscow boxing event in the audience. It would be a HUGE fight in Russia. There are already thousands comments on Kovalev's page in "vkontakte"(russian analog of facebook), where fans of Sergey and Artur talking **** to each other. This fight is similar to Cotto vs Canelo.

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Sounds like a duck to me.

[HEND]

Not so sure, it would be 75-25 in Kova's favor. This isn't like Stevenson who has a belt. Beterbiev is a challenger.

We know what happens already though, fight ain't gettin made.

Why everyone complains about the pursue bid?

That's the rule, the way of things if they negotiate and can't make a decision --> pursue bid.

Seriously some people act here like GYM should just lay down to HBO without any saying and let them make the fight.
That's not how things work.
If Kovalev would be in Beterbiev's position and vica versa then o this forum everybody and their mommas would blame Haymon for tie Beterbiev up and probably not let him to fight on HBO if it goes to pursue bid.
But now that you think HBO wouldn't let him fight on PBC if Haymon would win the pursue bid it's all good and sensible and it's GYM's/Haymon's fault again.

Mindfuck.
When Quillin dropped his belt because RN won the pursue bid everybody went at him and Haymon (rightfully so) but if HBO pulls the same move with Kovalev they will be just the poor victims of the evil Haymon/GYM who wanted to go for pursue bid a.k.a. play by the rules. While it would be almost the same damn situation.
It's ludicrous.


Why the **** HBO can't let Kovalev to fight on PBC for one fight? They re not bigger than the rules. Pursue bid > their beloved network deals. Same rules apply to Haymon.
If HBO makes Kovalev to vacate then they are not better by an inch than Haymon.