Comments Thread For: Team Beterbiev's Response To Kovalev's Promoter

[BazookaGomez]

Man they were Stevenson ducked Kovalev by signing with Al Haymon, the most powerful manager in boxing. How ****** is that. Is every fighter that has signed with Haymon ducking a fight with an opponent that is affiliated with en****** that refuse to deal with Haymon? GTFOH!

No but in that particular instance I considered it a duck. That's a complete strawman.

And I don't think other promoters refuse to deal with Haymon, it's the other way round, as I said it's no coincidence these rifts have followed him wherever he went.

[bigdunny1]

Why accept a million bucks when you can make 2?

2 million from where? The fight won't happen stop leaving that out he will over bid to pull a fight off HBO which Kovalev can't do thus meaning no fight and nobody gets paid. They know it so stop saying he is trying to get more money. Did Quillen get more money when he pulled out AFTER Haymon lost his purse bid? Nope Quillen did not make that money up his next fight nor will he see anywhere near that money his next fight. So Haymon did not sabotage the Quillen fight to get more money. Stevenson ain't getting more money either because the Kovalev fight ain't happening. A fight he agreed to 2 years ago before Haymon got in the picture. This ain't about money you fool this is about politics and Haymon keeping his fighters off networks and off promoters cards he doesn't like. The end game is not more money for Beterbiev it's a political move to get Beterbiev a title won by vacate instead of by beating the champ. Talk and spin it all you want but stop making up shyt we all know the fight isn't happening and damn sure he ain't making 2 mil for a make believe fight after a purse bid sham process. Turn down a real deal and shot at 3 championship belts to get one more fight "wink wink" and force a purse bid to get the champion to vacate his belt. Dirt bag move and bad for boxing.

[-PBP-]

I don't get what you're saying, I said I criticized team Duva and Kovalev when they pulled out of the purse bid after talking Stevenson ducking them for ages, not Stevenson, of course back before that when he jumped ship to showtime I criticized him as well.

Why does he need to become the mandatory? Kovalev is offering him the fight here and now for three belts, not one. They even said before HBO was fine and talked up all this game about being ready to fight Kovalev any time and beating him. We all know what it is, they found a safer way, under Haymon's tutelage..

They want to go to purse bid to get a more favorable deal for themselves. We already know Duva and Haymon don't get along and that HBO has little left in their budget. Instead of taking the fight immediately, he will become the mandatory and let a competitive bid take place for the possibility of getting a higher payday.

This is the way every deal in boxing should be done.

[-PBP-]

2 million from where? The fight won't happen stop leaving that out he will over bid to pull a fight off HBO which Kovalev can't do thus meaning no fight and nobody gets paid. They know it so stop saying he is trying to get more money. Did Quillen get more money when he pulled out the Quillen fight? Nope Quillen did not make that money up his next fight nor will he see anywhere near that money his next fight. So Haymon did not sabotage the Quillen fight to get more money. Stevenson ain't getting more money either because the Kovalev fight ain't happening. A fight he agreed to 2 years ago before Haymon got in the picture. This ain't about money you fool this is about politics and Haymon keeping his fighters off networks and off promoters cards he doesn't like. The end game is not more money for Beterbiev it's a political move to get Beterbiev a title won by vacate instead of by beating the champ. Talk and spin it all you want but stop making up shyt we all know the fight isn't happening and damn sure he ain't making 2 mil for a make believe fight after a purse bid sham process. Turn down a real deal and shot at 3 championship belts to get one more fight "wink wink" and force a purse bid to get the champion to vacate his belt. Dirt bag move and bad for boxing.

You're so one sided in your arguments it's disgusting. HBO's exclusive network deals prevent fights from being made through a competitive bidding process that will earn the fighters the most money they can get.

I have no clue what Quillin has to do with this when every poster on here calls him a fuck boy lame-o that gets no respect.

[peplz]

No but in that particular instance I considered it a duck. That's a complete strawman.

And I don't think other promoters refuse to deal with Haymon, it's the other way round, as I said it's no coincidence these rifts have followed him wherever he went.

It's not the other way around and you know it. HBO announced that they wouldn't do business wth Haymon anymore publicly. Golden Boy and Top Rank are suing him. Kathy Duva is an underling of HBO who seems to be in lock step with whatever they want. Bob Arum is engineer of this whole anti-Haymon cabal in boxing. He has the others following his lead but he doesn't give a damn about them. At this point trying to claim someone signed with Haymon to avoid one fight with one fighter just sounds like some paranoid aluminum foil hat wearing conspiracy theory.

[The Big Dunn]

2 million from where? The fight won't happen stop leaving that out he will over bid to pull a fight off HBO which Kovalev can't do thus meaning no fight and nobody gets paid. They know it so stop saying he is trying to get more money. Did Quillen get more money when he pulled out AFTER Haymon lost his purse bid? Nope Quillen did not make that money up his next fight nor will he see anywhere near that money his next fight. So Haymon did not sabotage the Quillen fight to get more money. Stevenson ain't getting more money either because the Kovalev fight ain't happening. A fight he agreed to 2 years ago before Haymon got in the picture. This ain't about money you fool this is about politics and Haymon keeping his fighters off networks and off promoters cards he doesn't like. The end game is not more money for Beterbiev it's a political move to get Beterbiev a title won by vacate instead of by beating the champ. Talk and spin it all you want but stop making up shyt we all know the fight isn't happening and damn sure he ain't making 2 mil for a make believe fight after a purse bid sham process. Turn down a real deal and shot at 3 championship belts to get one more fight "wink wink" and force a purse bid to get the champion to vacate his belt. Dirt bag move and bad for boxing.

THEN LEAVE HBO FFS IF THEY ARE BLOCKING FIGHTS FROM HAPPENING!! HBO blocked Haymon affiliated fighters and he responds by creating PBC and forcing fights to a purse bid.

What do you want Haymon to do, not respond and capitulate to HBO? You wouldn't do that so why should he?

[peplz]

You're so one sided in your arguments it's disgusting. HBO's exclusive network deals prevent fights from being made through a competitive bidding process that will earn the fighters the most money they can get.

I have no clue what Quillin has to do with this when every poster on here calls him a fuck boy lame-o that gets no respect.

Everytime I look at your posts I am mesmerized and bewildered. How did the referee allow Guerrrero to get away with holding and hitting like he did against Berto? Guerrero straight up cheated in that fight and got away with it.

[SchoolTheseCats]

FYI purse bids overrides exclusive contracts if the network tells him to drop belt because they lost and don't want him to fight on another network, well that's on kova, duva, and HBO with the clear duck I bet it's a bunch of complaining in here about trying force a purse bid to maximize profits when exclusive deals and budgets from one network kills fights from happening purse bids the way to go

[BazookaGomez]

They want to go to purse bid to get a more favorable deal for themselves. We already know Duva and Haymon don't get along and that HBO has little left in their budget. Instead of taking the fight immediately, he will become the mandatory and let a competitive bid take place for the possibility of getting a higher payday.

This is the way every deal in boxing should be done.

And they're fully aware that's not going to happen, there will be no purse bid. So rather than taking up the offer to fight for three titles now they'll be fighting for one against some nobody.

[MDPopescu]

... One asked above: "Is every fighter that has signed with Haymon ducking a fight with an opponent that is affiliated with en****** that refuse to deal with Haymon?"

Answer: Not "every fighter"... Just a few, though... LSG by ducking Rigo and Loma... Quillin ducking GGG... Wilder ducking Povetkin, Wlad... Stevenson ducking Hopkins, Pascal, Kovalev... Now Beterbiev...

... in short: mostly ducking "ex-Soviet" fighters...