Why does GGG have to move up this early?

[BazookaGomez]

He's 33 years old with like 30 pro-fights... Why hasn't he proven himself is the problem. Not that he hasn't, he had more than enough time to prove himself already.

Need help? Look what Floyd, Manny and Cotto had accomplished when they were 33 years old. Now look at GGG.

Stop making excuses for a guy fighting bums and saying "he needs to prove himself." What better way to prove yourself than beating the undefeated 168 pound king? Oh that's right, let's beat up on 4 loss Cotto and hype-job Canelo, that's proving himself. Fighting smaller men, wow, what an accomplishment. He's done that his entire career at MW beat up on smaller guys, it's embarrassing.

GGG started later than those guys, compare their amateur careers though. Let's see who accomplished more there.

[bigjavi973]

True, 3G's team b1tched out by pushing the catchweight. Would have preferred if they had said we'd rather first do the Cotto/Canelo fight before moving up to 168 than act like Ward was overreacting to the catchweight. That's probably what they are thinking of doing anyway, might as well be up front about it.

Also nice sig gif.

Yes exactly... I think some of the GGG fans have the blinders on & just go on attack mode without thinking some common sense 1st lol

and thanx!

[DreamerUSA]

He's 33 years old with like 30 pro-fights... Why hasn't he proven himself is the problem. Not that he hasn't, he had more than enough time to prove himself already.

Need help? Look what Floyd, Manny and Cotto had accomplished when they were 33 years old. Now look at GGG.

Stop making excuses for a guy fighting bums and saying "he needs to prove himself." What better way to prove yourself than beating the undefeated 168 pound king? Oh that's right, let's beat up on 4 loss Cotto and hype-job Canelo, that's proving himself. Fighting smaller men, wow, what an accomplishment. He's done that his entire career at MW beat up on smaller guys, it's embarrassing.

Outside of Stevens. Who exactly have you seen in the ring with GGG and went holy **** he is small compared to GGG? He is 5'10 and 170 ish pounds on fight night. He is an average size middleweight at best. There are 154lb guys that are bigger than GGG for ****s sake. Canelo is just as big as GGG and if Cotto does'nt want his ass whooped by bigger men, he needs to gtfo of the middleweight division. Becoming undisputed middleweight champion ****s all over a Ward fight.

[boliodogs]

True, 3G's team b1tched out by pushing the catchweight. Would have preferred if they had said we'd rather first do the Cotto/Canelo fight before moving up to 168 than act like Ward was overreacting to the catchweight. That's probably what they are thinking of doing anyway, might as well be up front about it.

Also nice sig gif.

Oh, you mean GGG b*tched out calling for a catch weight of 164 kind of like the way Mayweather b*tched out by making Canelo fight him at a catch weight of 152 or no fight after bragging how he fought Cotto at his best weight of 154. Floyd be like yeah, I'm a hypocrite.

[kafkod]

"what will likely be a loss" explains why its not logical to you....because its logical ...ggg just doesnt want a fight hes not favored in....even though hes saying hell take on 168....dont act like fighters havent jumped up and back down in their next fight....ggg would have potentially a year to recover from a 168 fight to fight canelo and get a tuneup in between

So why can't Ward fight Kovalev then come back down for GGG?

The same logic applies both ways. GGG has always said he wanted to unify 160 before moving up, and now he has a chance to do it.

If Ward has no business left at 168, there's nothing to stop him moving up and fighting the top dog in a higher division right now. If you think that's what GGG should do, why can't Ward do it too?

[Beater_of_ass]

Outside of Stevens. Who exactly have you seen in the ring with GGG and went holy **** he is small compared to GGG? He is 5'10 and 170 ish pounds on fight night. He is an average size middleweight at best. There are 154lb guys that are bigger than GGG for ****s sake. Canelo is just as big as GGG and if Cotto does'nt want his ass whooped by bigger men, he needs to gtfo of the middleweight division. Becoming undisputed middleweight champion ****s all over a Ward fight.

He's been visibly bigger than everyone but Murray and that was only because Murray was taller. You don't have to be taller to make it mean bigger. He was massive compared to Proshka or however you spell it, his first HBO fight. He was bigger than Geale obviously... That poor Japanese guy he killed was bigger? Just stop. Regardless of weight GGG has never been the smaller man in a fight.

And all this is moot. You're saying GGG is a small MW and Cotto isn't even a MW. He moved up for respect and legacy, why is that too much to ask for GGG? Especially after he was the one who said 168 better look out... The only thing GGG is small for is his mouth, he can't back it up.

[Beater_of_ass]

GGG started later than those guys, compare their amateur careers though. Let's see who accomplished more there.

Manny didn't have an amateur career and Floyd and Cotto had just a solid amateur careers. They did more in their amateur careers (winning medals at Olympics) than GGG has done in his pro career lol. But who the **** cares about the amateurs? Seriously this is the pro's muh ****a... when a guy hasn't done much in the NFL you don't say "Well he was in college and the CFL, look what they did THERE!"

WTF kind of dumbass argument is that?

[boliodogs]

True, 3G's team b1tched out by pushing the catchweight. Would have preferred if they had said we'd rather first do the Cotto/Canelo fight before moving up to 168 than act like Ward was overreacting to the catchweight. That's probably what they are thinking of doing anyway, might as well be up front about it.

Also nice sig gif.

He's 33 years old with like 30 pro-fights... Why hasn't he proven himself is the problem. Not that he hasn't, he had more than enough time to prove himself already.

Need help? Look what Floyd, Manny and Cotto had accomplished when they were 33 years old. Now look at GGG.

Stop making excuses for a guy fighting bums and saying "he needs to prove himself." What better way to prove yourself than beating the undefeated 168 pound king? Oh that's right, let's beat up on 4 loss Cotto and hype-job Canelo, that's proving himself. Fighting smaller men, wow, what an accomplishment. He's done that his entire career at MW beat up on smaller guys, it's embarrassing.

Why in hell does a smaller middleweight like GGG have to prove himself by going up a weight class to fight a great 168 pounder??? If GGG can beat any middleweight then he has well proven himself. He would have beaten all the top middleweights by now if Martinez, Cotto, Jacobs, Quillen and others had not flat refused to fight him. GGG has done enough to be ranked the best middleweight in the world by every organization that ranks fighters. He has done enough that Ring magazine ranks him as the 4th best pound for pound fighter in the world and Boxing Scene ranks him as the 5th best pound fighter in the world. Are they all ****** and the only smart one is you?

[mathed]

He's 33 years old with like 30 pro-fights... Why hasn't he proven himself is the problem. Not that he hasn't, he had more than enough time to prove himself already.

Need help? Look what Floyd, Manny and Cotto had accomplished when they were 33 years old. Now look at GGG.

Stop making excuses for a guy fighting bums and saying "he needs to prove himself." What better way to prove yourself than beating the undefeated 168 pound king? Oh that's right, let's beat up on 4 loss Cotto and hype-job Canelo, that's proving himself. Fighting smaller men, wow, what an accomplishment. He's done that his entire career at MW beat up on smaller guys, it's embarrassing.

Murray was bigger than he was as was Monroe. Most of the guys he beat were ranked in the top 10 at mw as well.

just more hypocritical bs from another Ward fan... Crying about a mw champ not fighting a smw who just fought above the smw limit while claiming foul on the mw for fighting mw's.

And you guys wonder why Ward gets hated on?

[BazookaGomez]

Manny didn't have an amateur career and Floyd and Cotto had just a solid amateur careers. They did more in their amateur careers (winning medals at Olympics) than GGG has done in his pro career lol. But who the **** cares about the amateurs? Seriously this is the pro's muh ****a... when a guy hasn't done much in the NFL you don't say "Well he was in college and the CFL, look what they did THERE!"

WTF kind of dumbass argument is that?

My point was that those guys all turned pro earlier than him and thus had far more time to establish themselves by the age of 33.... Your comparison is nonsense... Not to mention that Golovkin had promotional issues for quite a while with his promoter Universum and that has been a big blockade for him.

If you want to make a comparison between GGG and some other pro boxer, at least try and pick a fighter who turned pro at the same age as him..... Or at least compare what they've done the same numbers of years they've been professionals.