Why does GGG have to move up this early?

[Jake ChillenYal]

Canelo cotto winner has to fight GGG next or else they give up the belt. The language will be very strong and clear in the step aside agreement. It would not happen in October or November. It would happen in the first half of the year. However, I agree that cotto wants nothing to do with GGG

so you expect canelo, should he win, to come right back with ggg? dont u think its likely he asks for permission for a light defense and then fights ggg later?

[BazookaGomez]

ok then...explain to me your logic

You can't just go around jumping weight divisions like this and pretend that what will be a likely be a loss won't affect your career prospects at 160 or have any adversary effects...

He's fighting at 160 anyway in Oct against Lemieux so this whole thing is pointless, what's the reason for even talking about it?

[PK3434]

so you expect canelo, should he win, to come right back with ggg? dont u think its likely he asks for permission for a light defense and then fights ggg later?

Yes. I think he will have to and I think k2 can sue the WBC if they allow him to do anything different.

Of course, this is boxing and it's very corrupt so anything can happen..maybe a fake injury to delay or another 7 figure step aside agreement but I believe golovkin's team will be very firm on sticking to the agreement.

[Jake ChillenYal]

You can't just go around jumping weight divisions like this and pretend that what will be a likely be a loss won't affect your career prospects at 160 or have any adversary effects...

He's fighting at 160 anyway in Oct against Lemieux so this whole thing is pointless, what's the reason for even talking about it?

"what will likely be a loss" explains why its not logical to you....because its logical ...ggg just doesnt want a fight hes not favored in....even though hes saying hell take on 168....dont act like fighters havent jumped up and back down in their next fight....ggg would have potentially a year to recover from a 168 fight to fight canelo and get a tuneup in between

[Jake ChillenYal]

Yes. I think he will have to and I think k2 can sue the WBC if they allow him to do anything different.

Of course, this is boxing and it's very corrupt so anything can happen..maybe a fake injury to delay or another 7 figure step aside agreement but I believe golovkin's team will be very firm on sticking to the agreement.

i think k2 would be fine with canelo taking a light tuneup in between the cotto and ggg fights.....as long as they have a deal in place

[bigjavi973]

He could unify 160, face the winner of Cotto vs Canelo which COULD transcend him into a super star before moving up to 168 and fighting Ward. Why would he move up for a weaker fight, publicity and money wise, to then come back down to 160? Makes no sense. Some fans don't give fighters enough time to prove and build themselves.

OK......

But at the same time ya are ok with Froch & Chavez Jr at 168 but Ward at 164.

The argument ISN'T about him moving up or staying at middleweight.

The argument is the HYPOCRISY of Team GGG to fight the BIGGER Froch & Chavez Jr at 168, willingly, but for the SMALLER Ward it must be at 164.

[BazookaGomez]

"what will likely be a loss" explains why its not logical to you....because its logical ...ggg just doesnt want a fight hes not favored in....even though hes saying hell take on 168....dont act like fighters havent jumped up and back down in their next fight....ggg would have potentially a year to recover from a 168 fight to fight canelo and get a tuneup in between

A compeletely risky and nonsensical strategy, be glad you're not a promoter/advisor because all your fighters and you yourself would be broke as ****.

Why not WAIT FOR CANELO/COTTO and THEN fight Ward?

[BrometheusBob.]

OK......

But at the same time ya are ok with Froch & Chavez Jr at 168 but Ward at 164.

The argument ISN'T about him moving up or staying at middleweight.

The argument is the HYPOCRISY of Team GGG to fight the BIGGER Froch & Chavez Jr at 168, willingly, but for the SMALLER Ward it must be at 164.

True, 3G's team b1tched out by pushing the catchweight. Would have preferred if they had said we'd rather first do the Cotto/Canelo fight before moving up to 168 than act like Ward was overreacting to the catchweight. That's probably what they are thinking of doing anyway, might as well be up front about it.

Also nice sig gif.

[boliodogs]

GGG has no intention of moving up to a higher weight class. He is a natural middleweight and a smaller middleweight at that. If he is willing to make 154 for Mayweather then clearly he is not a big middleweight. He is in his mid 30s so he stopped growing a long time ago. His goal is to unify the middleweight division and rule it in the tradition of Hagler, Monzon and Hopkins. He is willing to fight Ward at 164. If the Ward fight happens at 164 then he would return to 160 after that fight, win, lose, or draw. Ward made it clear he won't go down to 164 for GGG so that fight will never happen. GGG will continue his quest to unify 160.

[baya]

He's 33 years old with like 30 pro-fights... Why hasn't he proven himself is the problem. Not that he hasn't, he had more than enough time to prove himself already.

Need help? Look what Floyd, Manny and Cotto had accomplished when they were 33 years old. Now look at GGG.

Stop making excuses for a guy fighting bums and saying "he needs to prove himself." What better way to prove yourself than beating the undefeated 168 pound king? Oh that's right, let's beat up on 4 loss Cotto and hype-job Canelo, that's proving himself. Fighting smaller men, wow, what an accomplishment. He's done that his entire career at MW beat up on smaller guys, it's embarrassing.

pfft, the simplest explanation ever offered on GGG.