Andre ward says he's ready and available to fight gennnady golovkin:

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  • Weebler I
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    #291
    Originally posted by Da Boxer
    Golovgotards ducking this thread in terror and the few that posted justifying the duck.

    Triple duck wants to fight Cotto who started his career at 140...lol, Triple duck will duck Ward who will meet him at 164.
    With respect, saying this, how is your motivation any different from theirs?

    Sergey Kovalev used to fight at 140 too, where a fighter started really doesn't matter, it's where they fight now.

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    • b00g13man
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      #292
      Originally posted by Da Boxer
      Golovgotards ducking this thread.
      Some notable names are definitely missing.

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        #293
        Originally posted by SniXSniPe
        Golovkin vs Monroe - 170
        Golovkin vs Rubio - 173
        Golovkin vs Macklin - 170
        Golovkin vs Gregor Proksa - 168

        Canelo vs Kirkland - >170 easily
        Canelo vs Angulo - 174
        Canelo vs Lara - 171
        Canelo vs Mayweather - 165 (catchweight)
        Canelo vs Trout - 172

        They are about the similar weight. Canelo gets no excuses for not fighting Golovkin. The only difference between the two is that Canelo chooses to drain himself of more water weight to fight in a smaller division. For those of you badmouthing Golovkin for wanting to fight the holder of the lineal title in his division, where are you when it comes to Canelo? Oh wait...
        ^This right here.

        Alvarez is a middleweight, no doubt. He needs to come up off of that 156, 157 BS...

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          #294
          Originally posted by Weebler I
          With respect, saying this, how is your motivation any different from theirs?

          Sergey Kovalev used to fight at 140 too, where a fighter started really doesn't matter, it's where they fight now.
          So, how many professional prize fights does Kovalev have @ 140lbs?

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            #295
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            Simple rules of thumb and observation:

            -most fight promoters generally take 30%-33%
            -most fight managers generally take 15% of the purse
            -trainers are supposed to get 10%
            -general rule of thumb on taxes is 35%.
            -Manny Pacquiao is known to take large fight advances, with at least $4m spent on fight tickets

            If those basic parameters hold true, Pacquiao is out 80% of his purse, before even figuring how much of his purse he'd received as an advance. lol



            this is nonsense.

            promotors do not take a cut of a fighter's purse!

            they run their enterprise like a business. they get TV buy money, sponsorship monney, and gate money. then they have expenses [fighter's purses are the big ones.] then they pay taxes on the difference [which is their profit.]


            promotors under the muhammad ali act cannot take more than 1/3 of a fighter's purse [also can't act as a promotor and manager for the same fighter at the same time.] most managers take around the 30% mark.

            trainers are at or around 10%. many take a flat fee once their guys get to a certain point.


            taxes are 35-40% for the highest bracket of income in the states. very few fighters make it that far. virtually no rich people pay that much in taxes. they actaully pay a lower rate than the middle class. the ones that do get to that tax bracket probably pay less in taxes than their less fortunate coworkers because of some good, old fashioned american accounting.



            you fit a lot of misinformation into one post

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              #296
              Originally posted by New England
              this is nonsense.

              promotors do not take a cut of a fighter's purse!

              they run their enterprise like a business. they get TV buy money, sponsorship monney, and gate money. then they have expenses [fighter's purses are the big ones.] then they pay taxes on the difference [which is their profit.]


              promotors under the muhammad ali act cannot take more than 1/3 of a fighter's purse [also can't act as a promotor and manager for the same fighter at the same time.] most managers take around the 30% mark.

              trainers are at or around 10%. many take a flat fee once their guys get to a certain point.


              taxes are 35-40% for the highest bracket of income in the states. very few fighters make it that far. virtually no rich people pay that much in taxes. they actaully pay a lower rate than the middle class. the ones that do get to that tax bracket probably pay less in taxes than their less fortunate coworkers because of some good, old fashioned american accounting.



              you fit a lot of misinformation into one post
              It's nothing new.

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                #297
                Why does 40-year-old Sergio Martinez not come out of retirement and fight GGG?
                I would pay to watch that fight.

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                • DLX
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                  #298
                  If you watched the SBnation video, Ward himself said GGG would not be next if it happens. Golovkin will hopefully fight Lemieux in October. And Ward will fight another BUM. Then GGG will press to get the Cotto Canelo winner. This whole debate about nothing is premature.

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                    #299
                    I know Team GGG wishes they can take back the comment about dancing with ANY of the wolves from 54-68....54-60 would've been more REALISTIC....asking for Ward at 164 but willing to do 168 for lesser skilled fighters in Froch and Chavez Jr says all you need to know

                    When Ward says they can't dictate terms, I'm quite sure he's referring to that bs 164 cw that was thrown out there by GGG's boss....Tom is playing internet hoe games...he's well schooled on how to make a fight happen...he know what to say and what not to say....just like Arum, Tom is transparent....only thing is he's not as slick as Arum with the words

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                      #300
                      As a GGG fan , i dont pretend to defend him here , he was quoted not long ago on that russian interview saying that he said yes and ward said no , now ward says yes , if he wants it , it seems open again , if he doesnt want it he should come out and say it , like Froch did about him (the "its a risky fight ill swerve him and **** the rest") , nothing to be ashamed off if you dont want to move up and face a tough challange.
                      I dont mind the media communication as a start to negotiations , the 164 is probably the first pawn moved on the board (if indeed they want the fight) so they can do 168 with better split.
                      if they cannot make the fight happen because HBO / Roc arent making it possible due to purse being too low , then lets hear it , if its Ward blocking the fight - lets hear it , but now , the ball is in their court lets see how they play it.
                      All the A side B side BS i read here is funny , as they didnt even sit down with all the relevant ppl to talk about anything yet , this was Ward calling him out to lets at least sit down and see where we stand and what can be done.

                      it is possible that after such sitdown it will blowup , but get that sitdown!!

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