I try not to place any pressure on any fighters to move up or down as only fighters know their bodies best . That being said I do think that naturally outgrowing a weight class and moving up based on your strength is a viable argument . Ward should move north because he has outgrown his weight class due to the lack of fighters willing to fight him based on his skill set and the lack of talent within the division, not because of strength . its arguable that GGG has outgrown his weight class due to his strength but I disagree as he still sometimes struggles with opponents at 168 , plus lemieux still lingers as a formidable foe . Kovalev on the other hand has outgrown his weight class because of his strength and size . If their is no Stevenson fight then he should be calling out Beterbiev not waiting for Ward to finally get to 175 and then get acclimated as that may take 2 years. Beterbiev stated plainly he's ready and willing , but Kovalev won't answer the call , and I'm sure Haymon has NO issue allowing Beterbiev to venture over to HBO to steal Kov's belts .
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Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View PostIf that's the case then why did Kovalev's promoter fly all the way to Las Vegas to attend the WBC convention to request, and press, for the WBC to order the purse bid in the first place. Duva said in multiple interviews that she wasn't worried about being outbid because HBO had Kovalev's back. When it became clear that HBO was NOT going to offer up as much as she expected, she pulled back.
BTW: I thought Stevenson had a good shot because Kovalev is a sucker to left hands but there is no point watching him fight if he doubts himself so much.
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Originally posted by Fetta View PostDont care about numbers or money or networks but yes it was more and well documented
Good for both but it is what it is and this time around it is a duck by kov
But like I said I don't think either is afraid of the other
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Originally posted by MarsinLeo View PostI'm a fan of Ward and I don't have a problem with him moving up to 175, or catchweight with Kovalev.
GGG was the one saying he was the best from 154-168. Well he needs to back those types of claims up. Period.
Ward supporters like myself want to see Ward take on/out GGG and Kovalev.
Ward is "good money". He's eerily similar to Floyd Mayweather in that way.
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Originally posted by ramplamp View PostThey "ducked" the purse bid because Kovalev has an exclusive deal with HBO. It has nothing whatsoever to do with them being afraid of a match with Stevenson. Trust me, Haymon and his team knew all about this going in. They knew Duva and co. wouldn't be able to participate in the purse bid, so it was nothing but a PR stunt to them. They're the ones who really don't want the fight. If Duva and Kovalev didn't want it, why were they trying to take Stevenson and Yvon Michel to court over their supposed agreement to fight last year? You're a dummy.
Kovalev tried to talk a ton of mess, using his loud talking to try and build his name up, only to then tuck tail and run the moment that Stevenson said "no problem, let's make the fight".
From now on, whenever Kovalev tries to puff his chest out again, whomever present should remind him how much a ***** he looked when team Stevenson called his bluff.
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View PostIf the plan was always to stay with HBO, because the believed lapse of the deal was largely why the WBC made Kovalev-Pascal for WBC mandatory challenger, Team Kovalev shouldn't have said **** in the first place.
Kovalev tried to talk a ton of mess, using his loud talking to try and build his name up, only to then tuck tail and run the moment that Stevenson said "no problem, let's make the fight".
From now on, whenever Kovalev tries to puff his chest out again, whomever present should remind him how much a ***** he looked when team Stevenson called his bluff.
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I am a fan of all three fighters and how is Ward going to cash out at 168 against a fighter that as of yet hasn't even moved up? I also have no problem with GGG wanting to stay at middleweight to become undisputed champ, or at least try. I would believe that all true boxing fans also would not have an issue with that.
And by cashing out I meant that Ward can still make good money facing Degale or Grooves while waiting to see how the GGG situation plays out. Ward's caution in moving to 175lb is understandable, once he moves up he's there for good....
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View PostIf the plan was always to stay with HBO, because the believed lapse of the deal was largely why the WBC made Kovalev-Pascal for WBC mandatory challenger, Team Kovalev shouldn't have said **** in the first place.
Kovalev tried to talk a ton of mess, using his loud talking to try and build his name up, only to then tuck tail and run the moment that Stevenson said "no problem, let's make the fight".
From now on, whenever Kovalev tries to puff his chest out again, whomever present should remind him how much a ***** he looked when team Stevenson called his bluff.Originally posted by HeroBando View PostThey should call his bluff by fighting him on HBO for tons more money and exposure he can get fighting scrubs off Hbo
Yvon Michel called Kathy Duva's bluff, and she backed off. So hooray for Yvon Michel, nice work there. But let's not forget why he did it - because he didn't want Stevenson to have to get in the ring with Kovalev.
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