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  • Originally posted by HEND View Post
    I never believed a single word from the injury excuse. If it would have been real then Pac wouldn't waited out the post presser with it but would have said in the ring on the post fight interview. That fact alone tells me everything about this case. Pac struggled big time on the post fight interview to find an excuse immediately and the maximum he could cough up was a desperate "He ran, I think I won" comment. After even the HBO hypeman Kellerman seemingly didn't agree with that and argue with it, it became painfully obvious to them that this excuse won't work in long term so after Pac talked with his promoter and manager, they found out together this shoulder injury excuse.
    The problem with your view is you ignored facts and refuse research you act like they just randomly made this up after the fight. pac was injured in camp, he was stuck in a rock and hard place, cancel the fight or fight injured. If he canceled he would have been scolded hard as a coward, usada let them take pain killers so pac thought he could fight through it.
    Arum told pac not to say anything. It was reported on twitter that arum just hours before the fight was raising hell at nsac, later it was revealed they denied pac his pain meds, yet gave floyd a tue for saline to hydrate. Pac brought usada there to vouch for him he was using the pain meds in camp, it was legal. Haymon got floyd an advantage first team pac argued on friday and refused to give into floyds glove demand, so team floyd said okay now we will deny you your pain meds.

    At the end of the day, floyd looked like **** against an injured fighter, and even if you don't believe his injury he still put on a pathetic performance, alll the pressure was on floyd to live up to his name but he failed against a washed up already been ko fighter.

    So what is the excuse for floyds poor weak scary performance? Where was his inside game? Why did he just clinch every time? So many guys including myself thought floyd would dominate pac inside and out but he didn't. The fight was close and after watching it i could see it being a draw more and more, it was boring and the onus was on floyd, im tired of his fan boys giving him a pass and excuses him when he doesn't fight. When you call yourself tbe the pressure to prove is on you not your opponenet

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    • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
      I have watched the fight. That's how I remember Mayweather complaining about fighting with "one arm" repeatedly afterwards.

      Yet he fought again before the year was out in a rematch against Castillo.

      Those are facts.

      All the other stuff is just subjective. "You can clearly see he's in pain" can be countered by "you can clearly see that Pacquaio didn't throw anywhere near the amount of shots he usually does".
      Can anyone help explain how Floyds situation is relevant to Pacquiaos? Why is there so much deflecting going on here?

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      • Originally posted by HEND View Post
        I never believed a single word from the injury excuse. If it would have been real then Pac wouldn't waited out the post presser with it but would have said in the ring on the post fight interview. That fact alone tells me everything about this case. Pac struggled big time on the post fight interview to find an excuse immediately and the maximum he could cough up was a desperate "He ran, I think I won" comment. After even the HBO hypeman Kellerman seemingly didn't agree with that and argue with it, it became painfully obvious to them that this excuse won't work in long term so after Pac talked with his promoter and manager, they found out together this shoulder injury excuse.
        1- I'm confused to this day with the fixation of exactly when it was said. Who cares? It especially confuses me given that he mentioned the injury after a reporter asked him about it specifically, he had not brought it up himself.

        If I went to a fight with a legitimate injury, didn't talk about it for 10 years, and then bring it up.. it's still a legitimate injury. It doesn't become fake because I decided not to talk about it when you think it's appropriate to do so.

        2- He may have legitimately thought he won, though win he did not.

        3- 100% Speculation

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        • Originally posted by jcpryor View Post
          Can anyone help explain how Floyds situation is relevant to Pacquiaos? Why is there so much deflecting going on here?
          I addressed Pacquaio's situation. The proof will come when he's back in the ring. Not when he's giving his own prognosis....followed by a chuckle. He said he'll be "recovered" in 2 months, not even that he'll be fighting in 2 months.

          The thread is littered with mostly Mayweather fans saying that this somehow proves his injury to be fake so I just brought up a similar example. Mayweather claimed the same injury and fought again in the same period of time. Does that mean he was "faking" or exaggerating the extent of his injury?

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          • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            I addressed Pacquaio's situation. The proof will come when he's back in the ring. Not when he's giving his own prognosis....followed by a chuckle. He said he'll be "recovered" in 2 months, not even that he'll be fighting in 2 months.

            The thread is littered with mostly Mayweather fans saying that this somehow proves his injury to be fake so I just brought up a similar example. Mayweather claimed the same injury and fought again in the same period of time. Does that mean he was "faking" or exaggerating the extent of his injury?
            Why does that even need justifying. . He could say anything but it doesn't really mean **** if he still won the fight. It makes no difference. But if you say you lost because you were injured, well either it's true or an excuse or still both.

            Why is that difficult for you to comprehend? Anyone who bet on an injured racehorse who somehow still won are gonna have a hard time taking that to court.

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            • Originally posted by MPX309 View Post
              Why does that even need justifying. . He could say anything but it doesn't really mean **** if he still won the fight. It makes no difference. But if you say you lost because you were injured, well either it's true or an excuse or still both.

              Why is that difficult for you to comprehend? Anyone who bet on an injured racehorse who somehow still won are gonna have a hard time taking that to court.
              Many thought Mayweather lost the fight hence the need for the rematch.

              If Mayweather had won so comfortably, he wouldn't have needed to make such a big song and dance about fighting with "one arm".

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              • Let's all sit back and wait for the rematch

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                • Originally posted by hectari View Post
                  Yeah he even wanted to quit and complained about it in the corner, pac has no quit in him, that is where pac and floyd differ, floyd ran and held and fought scared against an injured washed up fighter in pac, his fans are shameless and boasting about the victory like it was domination beatdown, they were living off the marquez ko like floyd did it for years, and when floyd fought manny and didn't do what they thought floyd would do they act like he dominated to save face.it was a close hard to score fight, if someone thought floyd won and said he won but the fight was garbage and it was uneventful and close, they are unbiased and real boxing fans. Floyd had a spy in camp and still didn't take a chance knowing pac was hurting, his own father told him to throw more to stop fighting scared, the only real meaningful hard damaging punches came from pac, floyd held on every time and should have got warned and a point deduction like broner did.

                  In the end the fight was garbage, floyd shouldn't get full credit because he waited way too long and he couldn't even dominate a shot washed up already damaged pac with a bad shoulder.
                  And remember what the floyd fans said? Floyd beat marquez better than manny, well marquez knocked pac out, while you struggled with manny. If floyd was so great how did he miss and struggle with a supposedly one dimensional fighter like pacman?
                  Oh STFU you imbecile.

                  Floyd dominated #48 with boxing skills you ****** ****.

                  Aint no Floyd fan saying he massacre or gave #48 a beatdown.

                  The only clowns screaming this BS about it being a close fight is you salty ass clowns that think domination only means beating someone to a pulp which is not true.

                  **** wasnt close and even notorious #48 nuthuggers like Lampley said Floyd dominated #48.

                  All this garbage about Floyd "struggling" is a joke and is only said by morons like you who are salty.

                  Mosley and clown ass Holyfield along with #48 clowns are the only morons that stay delusional.

                  #40 knocking #48 the **** out dont mean **** since Floyd schooled both of em.

                  He schooled #40 worse than #48 but schooled both nonetheless.

                  Easy work and you salty
                  Last edited by Eli Grinding; 06-26-2015, 07:47 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by MPX309 View Post
                    Why does that even need justifying. . He could say anything but it doesn't really mean **** if he still won the fight. It makes no difference. But if you say you lost because you were injured, well either it's true or an excuse or still both.

                    Why is that difficult for you to comprehend? Anyone who bet on an injured racehorse who somehow still won are gonna have a hard time taking that to court.
                    Oh wait, so if you win it's ok to misrepresent an injury? The fact that he didn't have a strong performance, threw and landed fewer punches, and had a contestable result are all incentives to misrepresent the injury but somehow the judges awarding him the decision would justify doing it in your mind?

                    Lol I don't have an opinion about Mayweather's injury, nor do I think Castillo won that fight, but your reasoning seems really... off.

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                    • "he said with a chuckle."

                      All the Floyd fans have just been trolled!

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