Could Golovkin end up being the next Jeff Lacy?

[SilverMiles]

Can't say asking GGG to move up 2 weight classes ridiculous.Floyd did it.A lot of posters here want him to move up more at 38,almost 20 years in the game to fight GGG.
But asking GGG to move up,wow mind blown!

When GGG was 19 he fought at 140, when Floyd was 19 he fought at 130.

So lets do the math here for GGG to fight at 168 it would be additional 28 lbs and for 175 would be 35lbs.

Floyd from 130 to 154 is just 24 lbs. Basically both men have put on the same amount of weight from teenagers to adults.

For GGG to go up more would be him putting on more weight than Floyd ever did.

[!! Shawn]

Lmao.... Absolutely not...


Golovkin is a silver medalist, and has crushed ranked competition..


Lacy was a weak amateur, and beat up on faded scott pemberton and Omar sheika...


Golovkin and lacy have zero in common

And World Amatuer Champion, which is basically the same thing as an olympic gold medal.

[mick1303]

Lacy stepped up to elite level after 21 fights and at 27 years old.

Golovkin is what? 33 and 35 fights in but he's yet to do the same.

Generally it is a mistake to consider amateur wins as important factor. But 345-5 just can't be ignored...

[mick1303]

GGG is nothing more than a hypejob bum killer. he needs to move up and fight the best fighter in that weight class to prove himself. and only him, if he fights other 168 lbers like froch hes not proving anything. even tho froch is arguably top p4p today, hes 38 and deserves to duck him. if ggg does beat froch, then i wont give him credit. hell, if he beats ward i may not give him credit. 175 lbers have some monsters that ggg will have to prove himself against before i can get him out of the bum class.


so yes, hes jeff lacy 2.0 clearly

And who are you exactly and why you "giving him credit" has a shred of meaning?

[PulpFriction]

When GGG was 19 he fought at 140, when Floyd was 19 he fought at 130.

So lets do the math here for GGG to fight at 168 it would be additional 28 lbs and for 175 would be 35lbs.

Floyd from 130 to 154 is just 24 lbs. Basically both men have put on the same amount of weight from teenagers to adults.

For GGG to go up more would be him putting on more weight than Floyd ever did.

Yea i think Golovkin is a mid-sized MW. I think he could compete at 168 for a fight or two but he'll prob end his career as a MW.

[ИATAS]

Who cares about weight?

Andre Ward cares about weight classes. You don't see him at LHW.

After Golovkin fought on HBO he expressed a lot of interest in fighting Ward and Wards response in regards to fighting Golovkin was he wasn't interested, "I don't see a win over him right now catapulting me past the Floyd Mayweathers or something like that."

At another time Ward said not right now, later when it's bigger:

"I think he's got work to do. He's gotta beat some upper-echelon guys. Right now, it doesn't look like those guys want to fight him, so it's not his fault. But I definitely feel like that could be a big fight (between he and Golovkin) down the road."

That was Ward's mentality. He wouldn't even fight Bute even though it would have been a huge fight and great money. Instead he said Bute wasn't worthy and needed to fight other guys first.

If your weight class is full of truck drivers, then you're never going to be great. He was willing to move up for Froch or Chavez but not Ward unless he got a "huge chunk" of the money - what has he done to feel so entitled?

Like how Ward will fight Paul Smith and Rodriguez instead if going up in weight and fighting someone better? Can't have it both ways man. If you're going to criticize Golovkin for not moving up in weight yet then stay consistent. Ward had the super six, hasn't fought a top guy in several years and he's not going anywhere, just hanging out looking to fight easy fights right now.

If he'd beaten Ward then he would have been a PPV fighter already but his team feel entitled to just be gifted a PPV fight.

If he could have fought Ward. As I pointed out, Ward wasn't interested in Golovkin in 2012-2013. Then he was out of boxing entirely with an injury (year) and legal problems (2 years). There was never a chance to even fight Ward.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Andre Ward cares about weight classes. You don't see him at LHW.

After Golovkin fought on HBO he expressed a lot of interest in fighting Ward and Wards response in regards to fighting Golovkin was he wasn't interested, "I don't see a win over him right now catapulting me past the Floyd Mayweathers or something like that."

At another time Ward said not right now, later when it's bigger:

"I think he's got work to do. He's gotta beat some upper-echelon guys. Right now, it doesn't look like those guys want to fight him, so it's not his fault. But I definitely feel like that could be a big fight (between he and Golovkin) down the road."

That was Ward's mentality. He wouldn't even fight Bute even though it would have been a huge fight and great money. Instead he said Bute wasn't worthy and needed to fight other guys first.



Like how Ward will fight Paul Smith and Rodriguez instead if going up in weight and fighting someone better? Can't have it both ways man. If you're going to criticize Golovkin for not moving up in weight yet then stay consistent. Ward had the super six, hasn't fought a top guy in several years and he's not going anywhere, just hanging out looking to fight easy fights right now.



If he could have fought Ward. As I pointed out, Ward wasn't interested in Golovkin in 2012-2013. Then he was out of boxing entirely with an injury (year) and legal problems (2 years). There was never a chance to even fight Ward.

Andre Ward has already had a stellar career and could have retired as a bordrerline HOF fighter. You're laughably comparing his career to the **** sandwich that has been Golovkin's

Ward was asked about Golovkin after the Rodriguez fight (which drew more ratings than any GGG fight at the time) and said lets do it. Golovkin's people then talked about "financial sense" and whatnot. We all know the story.

[SlySlickSmooth]

And World Amatuer Champion, which is basically the same thing as an olympic gold medal.

Golovkin KO'd Lucian Bute on his way to that gold medal.

[Chuckguy]

Andre Ward has already had a stellar career and could have retired as a bordrerline HOF fighter. You're laughably comparing his career to the **** sandwich that has been Golovkin's

Ward was asked about Golovkin after the Rodriguez fight (which drew more ratings than any GGG fight at the time) and said lets do it. Golovkin's people then talked about "financial sense" and whatnot. We all know the story.

You are getting schooled son just admit defeat
Quit humiliating yourself

[-Antonio-]

Golovkin is much better than Lacy. It's not even close. I fell for the Lacy hype too. At his best he was more comparable to Andre Berto than GGG. Pemberton, Sheika, old Reid....that actually makes GGG's competition look good.