Ward on BET gets 325K viewers

[PAC-BOY]

He went MIA because he was obviously having legal issues with his promotional banner.

Wasn't GGG going through the same thing at one point in his career? Again, where was GGG when Ward was making a name for himself?

No GGG stayed active! Fighting 5 times in 08 4 times in 09 and so on. Staying very active Ward was also an active fighter until that tournament . GGG and Ward were making waves. GGG just continued and is now the most talked about fighter to date. Ward on the other hand...nobody knows or remembers him!

[MarsinLeo]

No GGG stayed active! Fighting 5 times in 08 4 times in 09 and so on. Staying very active Ward was also an active fighter until that tournament . GGG and Ward were making waves. GGG just continued and is now the most talked about fighter to date. Ward on the other hand...nobody knows or remembers him!

Most talked about fighter to date? Really.

[MrRolltide91]

Ward/GGG should be on regular hbo


Kovalev/Hopkins was on regular hbo


not every fight is ppv worthy

[Barcham]

I haven't said a thing about regular HBO or PPV so I don't know why you're discussing that topic.

Ward won gold in the US Olympics. That trumps anything GGG has accomplished in his amateur career.

I don't care where Ward vs GGG happens, PPV, Regular HBO, BET, etc...

I just want the fight promoted properly and made. Period.

Golovkin's amateur accomplishments...

2000 won the Junior World Championships in Budapest, Hungary as a Light Welterweight.

2002 won the Asian Games in Busan, South Korea as a Light Middleweight.

2003 won the World Championships in ****kok, Thailand as a Middleweight.
Defeated Korobov, Andy Lee by decision and Lucian Bute by KO in this tournament, a fighter Ward ducked as a pro.

2004 Middleweight Olympic Silver Medalist as a member of the Kazakhstani Olympic Team. Andre Dirrell was one of the fighters GGG defeated at the Games. A fighter Ward refuses to fight.

That eclipses Ward who's only accomplishments were winning American amateur titles, no International titles, and the Olympic Gold as a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT. A weight class he still avoids moving in to as a professional, 11 years after the Olympics.

Funny how people dump on GGG for not moving out of MW where he has been since 2003, while no one says anything about Ward fighting in a lower division than he did at the Olympic Games and having no intention of moving up.

[Barcham]

Ward/GGG should be on regular hbo


Kovalev/Hopkins was on regular hbo


not every fight is ppv worthy

Kovalev/Hopkins was a fight between two SMWs. No one moved up a weight class to take the fight. You are welcome to your opinion but GGG has stated that he will only move divisions for a PPV fight. Don't like it? Tough shit. It's his career.

[daggum]

He does deserve more than 2.2 mill for fighting GGG. HBO has hyped GGG for years now. You have to pay Andre Ward more than that. He's earned it.

And if Ward has to take 2.2 mill then the fight should be in Oakland.

GGG has beaten nobody of worth. He's not proven. He cannot dictate every level of the negotiations. Otherwise Andre is correct not to fight GGG.

Andre has options north of his division.

GGG on the other hand is at the will and mercy of Cotto and Canelo.

sorry boxing doesn't work that way. you earn money by bringing fans, not resumes. the more popular guy gets more money since he brings in more money. resume and capitalism don't go hand in hand. and if ward can't fight an unproven guy unless its in oakland he's pretty pathetic. andre has options that he won't take aka he has no options but to be overpaid for easy fights.

[Barcham]

Most talked about fighter to date? Really.

How many different fighters are currently using GGG to get their name in the news? Froch...Ward...Lara...Lemieux...Oscar...Ramirez... Actually it might take less time to list the fighters who aren't riding his coat tails at the moment.

Number of fighters talking about fighting Ward? Zero.

[BrometheusBob.]

How many different fighters are currently using GGG to get their name in the news? Froch...Ward...Lara...Lemieux...Oscar...Ramirez... Actually it might take less time to list the fighters who aren't riding his coat tails at the moment.

Number of fighters talking about fighting Ward? Zero.

Ya know I had to pause and think about this one. I really couldn't think of the last person to discuss Ward other than GGG's russian interview. Hey I mean I could be wrong but... really hasn't been much discussion about who Ward will fight next as far as I can tell o_o

[kazyn8tive]

you guys go so far out of the way to let us know how embarassed ward made you when he outclassed carl froch

as if you care at all about american TV ratings.

BET, a network you've probably never heard of, is "black entertainment television."

it's a niche network. i didn't even ahve BET on my regular cable package until recently.


my only concern is that these shows aren't sustainable for rocnation. i don't care how much money they've got. they can't sustain gigantic losses liek that.

thy're taking a long term outlook on ward. they want him happy now, so that he wont' jump ship when golvokin and kovalev are potential PPV fights.


tjhe PPV landscape is going to shift dramatically when floyd retires. i can't say that ward will fill the void. i'd be shocked if he's a 10th of the star. still, a tenth of nine figures, which is what floyd allegedly earned to fight pacquiao, is a life changing amount of money, and worth the investment for rocnation.

You are sounding a lot like brushmyhair right now.

[doninlouisiana]

BET? I thought that was a frigging Youtube channel. So some say its a great number others say horrible, which?

Edit: Never mind I read through the thread