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  • #61
    Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
    That's unfair because you are comparing apples and oranges. It's incomparable to team based sports. You'd have to start with tennis to begin comparisons, and tennis is more tournament based. And it's just a lot less physical versus boxing.

    A lot of guys won't last long facing their equals all the time. And even in team based sports, they don't face their equals all the time. And a loss during the season isn't the same as a loss during the playoffs. Losing a single game can't make or break your career/season either. Just crazy to compare the two.
    No I get that...it's insane to compare the 2 (organized team professional sports such as the NFL versus boxing) because they're on polar opposite ends of the sports spectrum...but doesn't the UFC consistently matchup their top guys? I don't know, like I said, I don't follow UFC at all. But that's what I've heard. I'm just saying, there has to be a better way. When we (the boxing fans) actually get a big fight that we want, it can take literally years...and that's when we do get the fight. Sometimes we don't get them at all.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
      Paulie i will say this,some fighters are special everyone can not do what great athletes can do.....but Manny is to blame for making a big deal about drug testing to begin with
      Now that the fight happened and I can state my opinion without being a Pact.rd or a fl.mo, I will say this: I think the whole drug testing thing was a ploy from both to get to be the "A-Side". Both fighters thought they had a right to be the A Side (not like in 2015, Floyd was the clear A-Side) and didn't want to budge on anything.

      Floyd wanted testing up until 7 days of the fight (or whatever it was) and Manny wanted testing up until 17 days (or whatever it was). Point being, they should've just met in the middle at like 12 days or something but their ego's were too big.

      Could Manny be on PED's? Sure, but ANY athlete can be on PED's. Hell, it wouldn't shock me if MOST athletes are on some sort of PED, but without real proof everything is just speculation

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      • #63
        Right and when Manny underwent USADA testing against Floyd and had surgery on his shoulder days after the fight...

        Floyd as Manny said "didn't do nothing"

        Manny had VADA testing against Algieri and dominated him in every way...

        Khan (who Maliganggi talks about like he's Sugar Ray Robinson) got a gift decision after being walked down and exposed by Algieri...

        Paulie...let the Manny thing go seriously...the guy you should be concerned about is Porter who kicked your ass but looked like sht against Brook when he was subjected to random-testing...

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Mike D View Post
          No I get that...it's insane to compare the 2 (organized team professional sports such as the NFL versus boxing) because they're on polar opposite ends of the sports spectrum...but doesn't the UFC consistently matchup their top guys? I don't know, like I said, I don't follow UFC at all. But that's what I've heard. I'm just saying, there has to be a better way. When we (the boxing fans) actually get a big fight that we want, it can take literally years...and that's when we do get the fight. Sometimes we don't get them at all.
          Sometimes a lot of you guys over-criticise the sport. Other than Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, between two top fighters of the decade, what fights really took several years to make?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by FrankieClutch View Post
            Now that the fight happened and I can state my opinion without being a Pact.rd or a fl.mo, I will say this: I think the whole drug testing thing was a ploy from both to get to be the "A-Side". Both fighters thought they had a right to be the A Side (not like in 2015, Floyd was the clear A-Side) and didn't want to budge on anything.

            Floyd wanted testing up until 7 days of the fight (or whatever it was) and Manny wanted testing up until 17 days (or whatever it was). Point being, they should've just met in the middle at like 12 days or something but their ego's were too big.

            Could Manny be on PED's? Sure, but ANY athlete can be on PED's. Hell, it wouldn't shock me if MOST athletes are on some sort of PED, but without real proof everything is just speculation
            Floyd was never as muscular at the lower weight classes... Floyd was hurting his hand every other fight...now he punches bigger guys and his hand never hurts or breaks... he walks through punches like nothing...hardly ever gets hurt even when he's hit flush and look at his body before and after...not to mention, he only uses USADA testing...he will not use any other company...

            Not saying Floyd is juicing but he is as suspect as anyone...

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            • #66
              Originally posted by FrankieClutch View Post
              Now that the fight happened and I can state my opinion without being a Pact.rd or a fl.mo, I will say this: I think the whole drug testing thing was a ploy from both to get to be the "A-Side". Both fighters thought they had a right to be the A Side (not like in 2015, Floyd was the clear A-Side) and didn't want to budge on anything.

              Floyd wanted testing up until 7 days of the fight (or whatever it was) and Manny wanted testing up until 17 days (or whatever it was). Point being, they should've just met in the middle at like 12 days or something but their ego's were too big.

              Could Manny be on PED's? Sure, but ANY athlete can be on PED's. Hell, it wouldn't shock me if MOST athletes are on some sort of PED, but without real proof everything is just speculation
              Team Mayweather actually did try to meet in the middle. Team Pacquaio wanted a cut off around 20+ days. Team Mayweather originally wanted no-cut off. But ended up offering a 14-day cut off as a final compromise. This went rejected by the other party.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                Sometimes a lot of you guys over-criticise the sport. Other than Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, between two top fighters of the decade, what fights really took several years to make?
                How about we go with a childish network and promoter cold war for starters. There was/is a laundry list of attractive fights that couldn't even be entertained (the idea alone) because of a personal divide between promoters and networks. What other sport deals with **** like this? And if you want a specific example, how about we start with Kovalev/Stevenson?

                Dude I love the sport and am front & center of that television (or there at the fights personally if it's within a few hundred miles of me) of every single televised boxing card, but if you don't see how highly flawed the sport is, then I don't know what to tell ya.

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                • #68
                  Cant wait till Garcia stops Paulie and he starts accusing him of taking PEDs

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                    Team Mayweather actually did try to meet in the middle. Team Pacquaio wanted a cut off around 20+ days. Team Mayweather originally wanted no-cut off. But ended up offering a 14-day cut off as a final compromise. This went rejected by the other party.
                    Right, that's what it was. Manny wanted 20, Floyd wanted 7. I didn't remember the exact amount of days. Whatever the case may be, I think their ego's as well as bad blood between Floyd and Bob is what ultimately made the fight happen 5 years too late

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by crazed_z06 View Post
                      Cant wait till Garcia stops Paulie and he starts accusing him of taking PEDs
                      Quoted for truth.

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