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  • SO how about Ward-DeGale in the fall????

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    • Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
      SO how about Ward-DeGale in the fall????
      Most likely Degale will wait for Groves vs Jack winner (Groves vs Degale is obsviously a 'big domestic dust up' and a 'grudge match' which Hearn loves). Whether Hearn would want him in with Ward after that I dont know. Probably not

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      • Originally posted by HEND View Post
        Lol, you can believe me, Ward fans including me actually want the Ward vs Golovkin fight asap and the Ward vs Kovalev fight too after that because I'm a little annoyed by the flood of GGG/Kovalev fanboys (relax, not you-not you, but sometimes you're cocky and unreasonable too) and can't wait them to disappear. I don't want them to be around like + 2-3 years. And if Ward will beat them, they will disappear, just like most of the Pac fanboys disappeared and only the normal GGG and Kovalev fans will stay and I haven't got any problem with them.
        LOL, I need an explanation on that.
        I was referring to him being scared of Ward challenging Klitschko for the Heavyweight belt (which was obviously a little dis against that guy). I don't think he's scared of Kovalev, but he will lose to him though .
        That's the problem I have, Ward fans (some are Floyd fans that want a new boxer to look up to after he's gone) are trying to create a situation similar to Floyd and Manny. First off, some GGG fans are crazy that's definitely true, but Kovalev fans are not like that at all. I'm a bigger Kov fan than GGG. There are GGG fans (including myself at times) that use Kov against Ward to troll Ward fans. An example, "Oh GGG has to move up doe." Well why doesn't Ward move up, if GGG has to do it, why not Ward?
        I know it doesn't seem like this, but GGG actually has more fights at 160 than Ward has at 168. I don't mind if Ward stays at 168 btw.
        DeGale and Groves are going to be more than content fighting each other and avoiding Ward. Arum will not let Ramirez and Hart fight Ward. Ward may not be able to fight Haymon fighters and good luck getting the German fighters to fight Ward.

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        • The Golovkin and Kovalev fights were ones most wanted to see. Can't see either happening anytime soon though. GGG is lining up a big fight against Cotto or Canelo..and Kovalev is off the table if Ward is staying at 168.

          The fights at 168 don't excite me much to be honest. DeGale is an ok fight.
          Froch II isn't going to happen. Dirrell may not be a starter because of Haymon/RocNation?
          Stieglitz (if he was to beat AA), Groves/Jack don't set the pulse racing.

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          • Originally posted by Chrismart View Post
            The Golovkin and Kovalev fights were ones most wanted to see. Can't see either happening anytime soon though. GGG is lining up a big fight against Cotto or Canelo..and Kovalev is off the table if Ward is staying at 168.

            The fights at 168 don't excite me much to be honest. DeGale is an ok fight.
            Froch II isn't going to happen. Dirrell may not be a starter because of Haymon/RocNation?
            Stieglitz (if he was to beat AA), Groves/Jack don't set the pulse racing.
            Ward is staying at 168 by word of Virgil Hunter...

            The next fight possible for him is the last two that you mentioned (Steiglitz or Groves/Jack winner)

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            • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
              Because I was talking to someone who has pulled the race card themselves on numerous occasions. You telling me you haven't noticed that?
              I never pulled the race card...ever. Please stop with the lies.

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              • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                I guess you can never ever Again complain about Golovkin's opposition with those Guys you mention there. It's been close to 4 years since Ward fought an opponent with a pulse and given that 'murderers row' you present that negative streak is not about to end any time soon.

                Looking at those you mention, well Nielsen is not ready nor qualified. We are talking Monroe like opposition and he'll be looking at the DeGale/Groves Winner I think, but that is at least a year away.

                Medina? Don't know him at all.

                Sturm? He's done and there's no way I could see Sturm wanting that fight. But I think it could garner some interest in Cologne, so if Ward feels like travelling for a low purse...... In other Words it's not possible.

                Froch. Forget it. That has been nixed.

                Ramirez? Should that happen you are Again not allowed to mention GGG opposition.


                Abraham/Stieglitz? Maybe in Germany. Will the level of opposition be ok here? What do you think? Stieglitz isnt very good and Abraham is shot and has already lost to Ward. Ok AA did give Ward his toughest fight in the s6 but that was quite a while ago.

                In other Words you fail to mention 4-5 opponents.
                All those fights are better matchups than any fight that Golovkin has ever been put in, bar the Golovkin-Geale fight (which had some intrigue on paper).

                You add that Heiland-Johnson is seemingly going to happen to lock in the WBC title shot when it comes vacant, Cotto-Canelo is happening in the late fall, Lemieux is likely to keep the IBF title in Montreal for a while, and who is Golovkin supposed to fight, with likely two more fights to close out the year? lol.

                defend the can crusher as you wish

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                • Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  All those fights are better matchups than any fight that Golovkin has ever been put in, bar the Golovkin-Geale fight (which had some intrigue on paper).

                  You add that Heiland-Johnson is seemingly going to happen to lock in the WBC title shot when it comes vacant, Cotto-Canelo is happening in the late fall, Lemieux is likely to keep the IBF title in Montreal for a while, and who is Golovkin supposed to fight, with likely two more fights to close out the year? lol.

                  defend the can crusher as you wish
                  First off, why wouldnt you defend him as you admit fellow beltholders are kept away from him and unlikely to give him a chance?

                  Second, Nielsen, Porky Medina, Ramirez are not better than Ggg comp. Neither is shot Sturm. Froch is, but hes as unlikely to fight Ward or Ggg, whos been pushing for that fight for a while.

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                  • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                    Not bothered at all. The thing that 'bothers' me is how posters hold Ward to one standard and Golovkin to another.

                    Those posters want the very active GGG to move up in search of a challenge despite unfinished business at 160, while Ward, who hasn't had a meaningful fight in nearly 4 years, is allowed to sit around waiting for a smaller man despite there being plenty of challenges at 175.

                    That's a double standard right there.
                    Team Golovkin stated that their guy was the best fighter 154-168, with Abel Sanchez going as far as proudly proclaiming that Ward wouldn't even see the final bell with Golovkin.

                    Ward heard the noise, raised his hand, and said, in essence "let's see"; the moment Ward stood up, Team Golovkin started on with the stammering, immediately switching things to wanting to simply unify the middleweight division and crying about how the money simply doesn't make sense, or some other excuse.

                    If Sanchez had kept his mouth shut, Ward wouldn't be coming for his neck; Golovkin needed to either come out and say that Sanchez was full of **** (which would've made him look like a punk) or stand by those words and deal with the fallout from the **** that Sanchez was talking.

                    Giving Golovkin the pass that you want to give him would be as if Ward said he was ready for any fight 168-175, 175 lineal champ Chad Dawson came by calling, and Andre Ward immediately ran from trying to make the fight (crying about Dawson not bringing enough money or whatever other bull**** excuse). GTFOH

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                    • Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                      Team Golovkin stated that their guy was the best fighter 154-168, with Abel Sanchez going as far as proudly proclaiming that Ward wouldn't even see the final bell with Golovkin.
                      No
                      Ward heard the noise, raised his hand, and said, in essence "let's see"; the moment Ward stood up, Team Golovkin started on with the stammering, immediately switching things to wanting to simply unify the middleweight division and crying about how the money simply doesn't make sense, or some other excuse.

                      If Sanchez had kept his mouth shut, Ward wouldn't be coming for his neck; Golovkin needed to either come out and say that Sanchez was full of **** (which would've made him look like a punk) or stand by those words and deal with the fallout from the **** that Sanchez was talking.

                      Giving Golovkin the pass that you want to give him would be as if Ward said he was ready for any fight 168-175, 175 lineal champ Chad Dawson came by calling, and Andre Ward immediately ran from trying to make the fight (crying about Dawson not bringing enough money or whatever other bull**** excuse). GTFOH
                      Dude youre horrible poster. Always long winded, always wrong or totally ignorant of what youre talking about.

                      If Ward wants that fight, he fcuking finally makes an offer like an A sider he claims to be. Hes got Roc Nation behind him, no excuses anymore. Thats, if he really wants it. The one time Hbo came calling, he said no, Ggg said yes. No denial from Ward.

                      Just so its understood, it takes a "p4p #2" one division up to handle the can crusher? Hes too good for the rest, hence you support the ducks?

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