Can we stop saying GGG is picking on Cotto and or Canelo

[DreamerUSA]

Like i said after the canelo/floyd fight then he should drop it if he doesnt fight gg.. people are crying because he has 2 fights that arent aginst gg?


hes holding up ggs career but hes been a pro for almost 10 years lol, hes holding up his own career

Using two fights is'nt telling the story. Cotto took a year to fight his voluntary and assuming he fights Canelo late this year, we will be looking at close to two years before a fight with GGG is possible and Cotto still may not even fight him. So yeah. That pisses people off.

[PlasterWraps]

But Canelo has established himself at 160 though, right? Oh, it's just that he's "huge". Oh but wait, didn't GGG weigh 173lbs on fight night in one of his MW fights, and Ward 176lbs in one of his SMW fights? Whoa, what's going on here, some double standards.

And Cotto fought an "old injured Martinez and a weight drained Geale" but that still qualifies him as establishing himself as a MW. No wait, it's actually the physical title that does it.

Must be hard to understand that GGG doesn't have the 168 lineal title.

[Boxing1836]

Sergio was a shell of himself. There's a reason he hasn't fought since lol. Yea the size difference was bigger but still cotto it too small for gg. Since when is having 2 fights before fighting your mando the biggest problem in the world

i dont give a crap how he got his title, he has it and he should be facing his mandatory, its as simple as that. If he doesn't want ggg, THEN DROP THE DANG TITLE like other champs have done. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

[Bigg Rigg]

He is a middleweight,Cotto is the lineal middleweight champion..Canelo has not fought at 154 since 2013...If they dont wanna **** with the big boys then stay in the shallow end of the pool.

Fair enough. GGG has some ppl that wanna fight him though like Lara and Lemieux. I guess they don't bring big money to the table. Cotto is thinking big money too and that's why he's waiting to fight Canelo first, then he can talk about GGG. Everyone is making business moves now in days. GGG will go up to fight Degale or Froch but stutters the way Cotto did when Ward is brought up.

[-Kev-]

I am not saying GGG does not need to do more,but as of now Cotto put himself in that position

I agree, he did, and I have admitted that he did. But GGG just comes off as a scavenger tryna pick off big names, he doesn't deserve it. He has fought no one of note, and refuses to because of "the money". Cotto put himself in that position but GGG isn't trying to make a name for himself like every one else did. He's tryna time travel to a point where he just becomes a big star, he's trying to skip the hard fights. Recent example was Bute and the love and support he was getting when he was calling out Ward who had just fought Kessler, Abraham, Bika, Froch and fans backed Bute instead of the guy who had just paid his dues. That's how boxing fans are, they cheer for you when you are on the come up, but once you put in work they abandon you. Bute had defeated fighters as decent as the guys GGG has been beating, Johnson, Miranda, Andrade, Magee, very similar level, skipp[ing the hard fights and going straight for the SMW champion. I just don't see that as right.

[HanzGruber]

i dont give a crap how he got his title, he has it and he should be facing his mandatory, its as simple as that. If he doesn't want ggg, THEN DROP THE DANG TITLE like other champs have done. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

What part of me saying he should drop it after the canelo fight don't you get? Never seen such outrage over having two voluntary fights lol.

[-Kev-]

Must be hard to understand that GGG doesn't have the 168 lineal title.

But Canelo does have the MW lineal title, right?

And now Cotto's Lineal title is legit all of a sudden, he no longer beat an injured fighter and a weight drained C class fighter.

[DreamerUSA]

Fair enough. GGG has some ppl that wanna fight him though like Lara and Lemieux. I guess they don't bring big money to the table. Cotto is thinking big money too and that's why he's waiting to fight Canelo first, then he can talk about GGG. Everyone is making business moves now in days. GGG will go up to fight Degale or Froch but stutters the way Cotto did when Ward is brought up.

I get the whole business aspect, but is Cotto really going to make that much more money fighting Canelo. He is looking at a 50/50 split with Canelo if the fight is going to get made vs getting like a 75/25 or 80/20 split with GGG. Obviously the Canelo/Cotto fight generates more revenue, but is Cotto really going to make much more money. I'm not so sure.

[Boxing1836]

I agree, he did, and I have admitted that he did. But GGG just comes off as a scavenger tryna pick off big names, he doesn't deserve it. He has fought no one of note, and refuses to because of "the money". Cotto put himself in that position but GGG isn't trying to make a name for himself like every one else did. He's tryna time travel to a point where he just becomes a big star, he's trying to skip the hard fights. Recent example was Bute and the love and support he was getting when he was calling out Ward who had just fought Kessler, Abraham, Bika, Froch and fans backed Bute instead of the guy who had just paid his dues. That's how boxing fans are, they cheer for you when you are on the come up, but once you put in work they abandon you. Bute had defeated fighters as decent as the guys GGG has been beating, Johnson, Miranda, Andrade, Magee, very similar level, skipp[ing the hard fights and going straight for the SMW champion. I just don't see that as right.

I don't care if you think it's right,I don't care what your opinion is if he deserves it or not, thats what you and hanz arent getting. no one cares what you "think" he deserves, it is a RULE that cotto is not following. That is not an opinion, that is a fact. and you can state all you want about how he doesn't deserve it, but it doesn't matter. Your stance has no ground and its just an opinion. GGG and his team is the only one with the argument here, because cotto is not wanting to fight his mandatory which is a RULE that WBC set and one that cotto knows about. Drop the belt or fight GGG, as simple and as clear as it can be.

What part of me saying he should drop it after the canelo fight don't you get? Never seen such outrage over having two voluntary fights lol.

because its not in the rules bud, should have fought canelo this year but he decided to fight geale, he got his one fight now he needs to face ggg.

[Bigg Rigg]

I get the whole business aspect, but is Cotto really going to make that much more money fighting Canelo. He is looking at a 50/50 split with Canelo if the fight is going to get made vs getting like a 75/25 or 80/20 split with GGG. Obviously the Canelo/Cotto fight generates more revenue, but is Cotto really going to make much more money. I'm not so sure.

I would think he will make a pretty penny fighting Canelo on PPV compared to GGG. The Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and fans in general will go crazy. Big money there bro. It's like asking if GGG would make that much more money vs Froch in the UK on PPV compared to a fight with Ward.