why is margarito cheating against cotto theory widely accepted? proof?

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  • Beater_of_ass
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    #111
    Originally posted by Skip Bayless
    1. source for margarito saying wraps felt the same?
    2. the 2nd cotto fight happened after the controversy so of course he was looking his hands being wrapped. how the hell does that prove he wasnt looking at his hands for the 1st cotto fight? it doesnt
    3. and the trainer reusing the gauze doesnt prove those are the one from cotto 1 fight, it could be ones used by his other boxer.
    4. cotto said margarito punches felt the same
    1.) Read court documents.

    2.) I said during the Manny fight, not the Cotto fight. It was still after but go watch some video of his hands being wrapped prior to some other fights on HBO. He's looking at them lol.

    3.) Again, how do you re-use gauze? It's impossible. Do they take the tape and roll it back into a ball like the gauze? Or do they cut the gauze/tape like the they always do after a fight to get it off the fighters hands?

    4.) The punches feeling the same mean nothing, they didn't have anywhere near the same affect.

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    • puro dinamita
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      #112
      people are quick to judge fighter that beat the living **** out of their fighter they can't let it go not naming anyname but kneeguel jotto haha

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      • pacmanis1
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        #113
        Let Margo be an example for the young kids everywhere that if you cheat once you destroy any previous work you have. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but he screwed up and love him or hate him his career will always be a question mark.

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        • SunSpace
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          #114
          In all seriousness, how could anyone deny this clear evidence of cheating? We're lucky Cotto found a way to come back after that. And, yes, people will always have to wonder what could've been had this weapon never been used against him, had Cotto been with Roach earlier in his career. But, that's life. At least, Cotto's career was not terminated, and he has continued to succeed.

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          • fvanesbeck
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            #115
            Originally posted by Scott9945
            Well of course you are welcome to assume anything you like. I guess it is possible he passed all those other inspections by the commissions and opponents corners for all of those years. Just not very likely. But there is no doubt that Margarito had a poor training camp for the Mosley fight and had problems making weight. A little research will make that plainly clear.
            Naazim Richardson said that a commissioner from the NSAC thought the wraps for the Mosley fight felt alright so it's entirely plausible that he got away with it for a long time.

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            • Skip Bayless
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              #116
              Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
              1.) Read court documents.

              2.) I said during the Manny fight, not the Cotto fight. It was still after but go watch some video of his hands being wrapped prior to some other fights on HBO. He's looking at them lol.

              3.) Again, how do you re-use gauze? It's impossible. Do they take the tape and roll it back into a ball like the gauze? Or do they cut the gauze/tape like the they always do after a fight to get it off the fighters hands?

              4.) The punches feeling the same mean nothing, they didn't have anywhere near the same affect.
              punches feeling the same is irrelevant? haha wtf the whole point of plaster paris is to hurt ur opponent. and what effect did they have on cotto in the first fight? dont see any plaster effects

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              • fvanesbeck
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                #117
                Originally posted by Skip Bayless
                punches feeling the same is irrelevant? haha wtf the whole point of plaster paris is to hurt ur opponent. and what effect did they have on cotto in the first fight? dont see any plaster effects


                Go to about 5:50. Max Kellerman says that Margarito said to him in the past that he didn't feel any difference in his wraps for the Mosley fight. He also does a pretty good job of dodging the question that follows.

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                • SunSpace
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                  #118
                  To be fair, since I have watched many of Cotto's interviews in both English and Spanish, he said that when he fights, he doesn't feel anyone's punches. He explained that perhaps it was because of the adrenaline. This was in response to that Margarito question, by the way. The difference is the effect it has on him. In the first fight, you saw what effect the plaster had. The second, no plaster use is evident, hence the whole "I'm still standing" statement. This is not the first time a fighter has said something along these terms, either. I recall Mayorga said one time he really didn't feel opponent's punches, in his case claiming it was because of the way his mother gave birth to him. In all likelihood, Cotto's explanation of this is more accurate.
                  Last edited by SunSpace; 06-11-2015, 06:22 PM.

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                  • Scott9945
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by fvanesbeck
                    Naazim Richardson said that a commissioner from the NSAC thought the wraps for the Mosley fight felt alright so it's entirely plausible that he got away with it for a long time.
                    Every fight likely had a different commissioner and certainly had a different opponent. You can't fool all the people all the time. Maybe what was in Margarito's gloves wasn't as substantial as Cotto fans make it out to be, explaining why the commissioner wasn't su****ious?

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                    • boxingsupreme87
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by SunSpace
                      In all seriousness, how could anyone deny this clear evidence of cheating? We're lucky Cotto found a way to come back after that. And, yes, people will always have to wonder what could've been had this weapon never been used against him, had Cotto been with Roach earlier in his career. But, that's life. At least, Cotto's career was not terminated, and he has continued to succeed.
                      What clear evidence? There was literally nothing found in the Cotto fight. Perhaps you're talking about the Mosley fight? The one where they claimed to have found a compound substance that only IF combined with another substance could form "plaster like" casting?

                      If he was literally caught with PLASTER or "BRICKS" in his gloves like PR fanboys like to claim, he would have been BANNED FOR LIFE and possibly face jail time idiots. Sometimes I wonder if Cotto fans are capable of being objective....I'm a Cotto fan but sometimes I feel it's getting real hard to admit it.

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