why is margarito cheating against cotto theory widely accepted? proof?

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  • BigAlexSand
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    #101
    Originally posted by Skip Bayless
    and they are basing it on what? once a cheater always cheater theory? haha come on now. innocent till proven guilty
    Come on Skip... He and his Trainer were both proven guilty with a unanimous desecion by the Califonia Athletic Commision. Capetillo had admitted guilt on his part and has yet to be allowed to be in any of his fighters corner during a fight in the whole U.S.

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    • BMWM3P
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      #102
      Originally posted by Damaged Petals
      Are you kidding me with this one?

      Evangelista Cotto, his uncle. Give me a harder question next time.
      Wow you are truly knowledgeable, a real boxing savant.

      Hey ******, since you know so much how come you didn't know that a the time of the fight Evangelista wasn't on speaking terms with his nephew and admitted that he never went to Plasteritos locker room and much less checked his wraps.
      Last edited by BMWM3P; 06-11-2015, 04:50 PM.

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      • Beater_of_ass
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        #103
        Originally posted by Skip Bayless
        and they are basing it on what? once a cheater always cheater theory? haha come on now. innocent till proven guilty
        They are basing it off of what Tony has said you moron. He stated, IN COURT, he felt no difference in his wraps. He's too ****** to know what someone did to his wraps? The Margarito fight with Manny, when they cut to the back watching Marg get his hands wraps, Steward said look at Margaritio staring right at his wraps. He told the commission he never looks at his hand while being wrapped because he is getting in the zone. He always looks when it happens, go watch.

        I haven't even mentioned the cracked wraps because I knew it was a thread. Again, what can you say about the wraps that had dye on them when a glove was never even put on? In the same exact spot where they leaked through the Cotto, fight, the same hand even. Remember again, we know there was never a glove put on the left hand when ****m walked in. No warm-ups, anything.

        Here's a good question too, who in the **** reuses wraps? Every fight I've seen it's tape and gauze only. How can you re-use tape and gauze? Do you know what gauze is? You can re-use a block of cast for sure, just put it under some tape and gauze and that's exactly what happened. Your proof it didn't happen was "Cotto didn't swell as much" and "It wasn't cracked." I haven' used any of those arguments and you think you've disproved something? Lol, idiot.

        This is like the Tom Brady excuse. A ****ing defensive player knew the ball was under-inflated that Brady threw. A guy who NEVER touches the ball was like something is funny here... but Tom doesn't know the proper inflation level? Everyone knows he's full of ****. But if you believe Tom doesn't understand the tools of his trade, I guess you're ****** to believe a boxer doesn't know what proper wrapping of his hands feels like or if it's heavier than usual lol.
        Last edited by Beater_of_ass; 06-11-2015, 03:49 PM.

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        • daggum
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          #104
          well if he didn't cheat then cotto wouldn't be undefeated(which he is)

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          • Beater_of_ass
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            #105
            Originally posted by daggum
            well if he didn't cheat then cotto wouldn't be undefeated(which he is)
            If you didn't post, we'd all be a lot smarter (which you aren't.)

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            • daggum
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              #106
              Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
              If you didn't post, we'd all be a lot smarter (which you aren't.)
              yes that is true but I do post so you will have to continue being dumb i'm sorry

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              • Beater_of_ass
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                #107
                Originally posted by daggum
                yes that is true but I do post so you will have to continue being dumb i'm sorry

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                • Slyboots
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                  #108
                  Don't forget about this minor detail:

                  Skip to 2:00


                  I think you could certainly make a case that Tony had been using that his entire career as well. That would explain his "iron chin".

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                  • Skip Bayless
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                    They are basing it off of what Tony has said you moron. He stated, IN COURT, he felt no difference in his wraps. He's too ****** to know what someone did to his wraps? The Margarito fight with Manny, when they cut to the back watching Marg get his hands wraps, Steward said look at Margaritio staring right at his wraps. He told the commission he never looks at his hand while being wrapped because he is getting in the zone. He always looks when it happens, go watch.

                    I haven't even mentioned the cracked wraps because I knew it was a thread. Again, what can you say about the wraps that had dye on them when a glove was never even put on? In the same exact spot where they leaked through the Cotto, fight, the same hand even. Remember again, we know there was never a glove put on the left hand when ****m walked in. No warm-ups, anything.

                    Here's a good question too, who in the **** reuses wraps? Every fight I've seen it's tape and gauze only. How can you re-use tape and gauze? Do you know what gauze is? You can re-use a block of cast for sure, just put it under some tape and gauze and that's exactly what happened. Your proof it didn't happen was "Cotto didn't swell as much" and "It wasn't cracked." I haven' used any of those arguments and you think you've disproved something? Lol, idiot.

                    This is like the Tom Brady excuse. A ****ing defensive player knew the ball was under-inflated that Brady threw. A guy who NEVER touches the ball was like something is funny here... but Tom doesn't know the proper inflation level? Everyone knows he's full of ****. But if you believe Tom doesn't understand the tools of his trade, I guess you're ****** to believe a boxer doesn't know what proper wrapping of his hands feels like or if it's heavier than usual lol.
                    1. source for margarito saying wraps felt the same?
                    2. the 2nd cotto fight happened after the controversy so of course he was looking his hands being wrapped. how the hell does that prove he wasnt looking at his hands for the 1st cotto fight? it doesnt
                    3. and the trainer reusing the gauze doesnt prove those are the one from cotto 1 fight, it could be ones used by his other boxer.
                    4. cotto said margarito punches felt the same

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                    • Scott9945
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
                      No it's not! Everyone has a right to assume he cheated his whole career or just before he got caught cheating. Because he was caught attempting to cheat. What u said about speculating him being outta shape is not as valid.
                      Well of course you are welcome to assume anything you like. I guess it is possible he passed all those other inspections by the commissions and opponents corners for all of those years. Just not very likely. But there is no doubt that Margarito had a poor training camp for the Mosley fight and had problems making weight. A little research will make that plainly clear.

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