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  • IMDAZED
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    #81
    Ahh I just remembered Mayweather tweeting about Alexander. What a mind ****.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      They'd both lose out if they went head-to-head. Floyd would lose a large chunk of his US PPV audience to Canelo-Cotto, there's no question about that. Maybe he could make up for it with UK PPV sales but Khan and Brook are not Hatton.
      Are you sure?

      Respectfully, will the "true" ppv buying audience-mainstream, casual, white fans-choose 2 non Americans, one of whom barely communicates in English, over Floyd, even with all his baggage?

      This was what I was trying to explain to Tunney/Freedom about Wlad. It wasn't that blacks/Hispanics didn't like him, it was the mainstream US fan that didn't, most likely because he wasn't American.

      I agree Cotto/Canelo is a huge fight, but if you look at Canelo's sales when he headlined a PPV, coupled with the low sales of cotto/Martinez (bob's opinion, not mine), this fight may not do what diehard fans of each guy think.

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        #83
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Alexander was considered a frontrunner by who? The media? Not too many of them have an in on Floyd's opponents. In fact, they're wrong most of the time.
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Ahh I just remembered Mayweather tweeting about Alexander. What a mind ****.
        There you go. Mayweather tweeted about Alexander, who was the current IBF Champion at the time, as the frontrunner.

        But ended up fighting Guerrero who was......

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          #84
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          There you go. Mayweather tweeted about Alexander, who was the current IBF Champion at the time, as the frontrunner.

          But ended up fighting Guerrero who was......
          Guerrero was the interim WBC champ and Mayweather's mandatory. He would have to fight him next if he did fight Alexander.

          More important though, Guerrero was only marginally more popular than Alexander, largely because of his fight against Berto. He's never been a big attraction.

          Again, if Mexicans supported these fighters when they fight Floyd, seems like they don't support them before or after.

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            #85
            Originally posted by mortal7
            Floyd would easily do below 1 million ppv buys if he fell off those dates fighting non hispanics.
            He won't fall off those dates though. Floyd doing poor numbers-Maidana, Ghost-still are the biggest selling fights of the year.

            Would the powers that be replace a fighter that sells 800k on a bad night with a fighter that sells 450-550k on a good night, especially when the cost to see the 800k fighter is more expensive?
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-10-2015, 03:32 PM.

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              #86
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Guerrero was the interim WBC champ and Mayweather's mandatory. He would have to fight him next if he did fight Alexander.

              More important though, Guerrero was only marginally more popular than Alexander, largely because of his fight against Berto. He's never been a big attraction.

              Again, if Mexicans supported these fighters when they fight Floyd, seems like they don't support them before or after.
              Nah, Floyd is above the law.

              He doesn't have to fight his mandatories.

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                #87
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                If not Broner, who? At the time, Broner would've been an undefeated WW champion, former LW champ, with plenty of notoriety.

                He'd be Kell Brook, only with a much bigger US fanbase and more accomplishments.
                It would have been Khan.

                Khan was basically a done deal until Maidana upset Broner.

                Broner was and is never an option. He won't fight Floyd.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Nah, Floyd is above the law.

                  He doesn't have to fight his mandatories.
                  Maybe. Seems he has a special place in his heart for the WBC.

                  Regardless, I don't think he was pandering to Guerrero's massive Mexican fanbase by choosing him.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Guerrero was the interim WBC champ and Mayweather's mandatory. He would have to fight him next if he did fight Alexander.
                    I was waiting for you to say that - are you fking serious? Mandatory? LOL. Name me any other mandatories that Floyd Mayweather has fought in the last decade.

                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    More important though, Guerrero was only marginally more popular than Alexander, largely because of his fight against Berto. He's never been a big attraction..
                    Guerrero was chosen because he was Mexican. The Alexander tweet was sent out as a negotiating ploy by Floyd to get Guerrero to sign the contract because he needed a Mexican opponent to fight on a Mexican holiday. It's basic common sense - Floyd admits it himself so I don't know what you're arguing against?

                    How many buys do you think Floyd-Alexander would have done?

                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Guerrero was chosen because he was Mexican. It's no use dancing around it.
                    Again, if Mexicans supported these fighters when they fight Floyd, seems like they don't support them before or after.
                    Because obviously it takes two to tango. If Floyd Mayweather fought Erislandy Lara, it would completely bomb on PPV in comparison to his other fights.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      I was waiting for you to say that - are you fking serious? Mandatory? LOL. Name me any other mandatories that Floyd Mayweather has fought in the last decade.



                      Guerrero was chosen because he was Mexican. The Alexander tweet was sent out as a negotiating ploy by Floyd to get Guerrero to sign the contract because he needed a Mexican opponent to fight on a Mexican holiday.

                      How many buys do you think Floyd-Alexander would have done?



                      Because obviously it takes two to tango. If Floyd Mayweather fought Erislandy Lara, it would completely bomb on PPV in comparison to his other fights.
                      1. What Mexican holiday is in early-May?

                      2. How many PPV's did Guerrero sell before Mayweather? After?

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