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  • Wolfie*
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    #71
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Mayweather fighting on Mexican holidays against Mexicans is just a coincidence

    Mayweather admits it himself - put black fighters against Hispanic fighters and you draw the best numbers. Yet his fans try to deny it?

    It's like how he literally and admittedly markets himself as a villain and his fans still ask "why they all hatin doe?"
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    It really is comical isn't it? They don't want to admit that he has been piggybacking Mexicans to buy his PPVs for the longest time. They also fail to mention that there is plenty of other days on the calendar to host a PPV fight. Canelo wanting that date shouldn't be an issue to anyone. Not even a fan of Canelo but if a Mexican wants to fight on Mexican holidays, I don't see an issue with it.

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      #72
      Originally posted by mortal7
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      It really is comical isn't it? They don't want to admit that he has been piggybacking Mexicans to buy his PPVs for the longest time. They also fail to mention that there is plenty of other days on the calendar to host a PPV fight. Canelo wanting that date shouldn't be an issue to anyone. Not even a fan of Canelo but if a Mexican wants to fight on Mexican holidays, I don't see an issue with it.
      The key words-Mexican Holidays. If he was fighting in Mexico on these days there would be no issue . He wants to fight in the US on those dates.

      Those are prime fight dates in the US and the biggest US boxing star wants to fight on those dates. So Canelo loses out.

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        #73
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        The key words-Mexican Holidays. If he was fighting in Mexico on these days there would be no issue . He wants to fight in the US on those dates.

        Those are prime fight dates in the US and the biggest US boxing star wants to fight on those dates. So Canelo loses out.
        Stop being so naive. It's clear why they want it in the United States where they can maximize their profits where they can charge for the PPV. Usually Mexico gets their fights for free. Any idiot can see hispanics, Mexicans in particular are a big demographic in the United States so it makes sense for them to host the fight in the United States. Even if he did fight in Mexico, you still wouldn't like it if he was trying to "steal" those dates from your boyfriend.

        If Floyd was such a PPV star and the cash cow, dates would be irrelevant to him and there are plenty of other dates he can fight on but does he? **** no. He knows who is buying his fights and doesn't want to screw that up.

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          #74
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          The key words-Mexican Holidays. If he was fighting in Mexico on these days there would be no issue . He wants to fight in the US on those dates.

          Those are prime fight dates in the US and the biggest US boxing star wants to fight on those dates. So Canelo loses out.
          They'd both lose out if they went head-to-head. Floyd would lose a large chunk of his US PPV audience to Canelo-Cotto, there's no question about that. Maybe he could make up for it with UK PPV sales but Khan and Brook are not Hatton.

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            #75
            I wonder why Mexicans don't support Canelo when he's got a PPV without Floyd.

            300K?

            No bueno

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              #76
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              I wonder why Mexicans don't support Canelo when he's got a PPV without Floyd.

              300K?

              No bueno
              Floyd would easily do below 1 million ppv buys if he fell off those dates fighting non hispanics.

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                #77
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                I wonder why Mexicans don't support Canelo when he's got a PPV without Floyd.

                300K?

                No bueno
                You didn't respond to my Guerrero/Alexander post....

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by mortal7
                  Floyd would easily do below 1 million ppv buys if he fell off those dates fighting non hispanics.
                  Definitely a prime date for US TV audience. IDK about non-hispanic though. He did just fine fighting Mosley and Pacquiao. And there isn't a huge Argentine population in the US but he did just fine against Maidana.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by mortal7
                    Stop being so naive. It's clear why they want it in the United States where they can maximize their profits where they can charge for the PPV. Usually Mexico gets their fights for free. Any idiot can see hispanics, Mexicans in particular are a big demographic in the United States so it makes sense for them to host the fight in the United States. Even if he did fight in Mexico, you still wouldn't like it if he was trying to "steal" those dates from your boyfriend.

                    If Floyd was such a PPV star and the cash cow, dates would be irrelevant to him and there are plenty of other dates he can fight on but does he? **** no. He knows who is buying his fights and doesn't want to screw that up.
                    You said don't be so naïve, then you proceed to be. Last I checked, the US is still well over 70% white. Those are the casual fans drive PPV sales in the US. Same as its always been.
                    Please do not pretend its the Hispanic demographic that is buying PPv's just because Hispanic fighters are in the fight.

                    There is a reason soccer isn't big in the US.

                    I understand they want to maximize profit. Profit isn't maximized because those are Mexican holidays but because the US sports calendar is relatively light so those are the best days for PPV fights. That's why floyd doesn't fight on other dates-he's trying to maximize profit as well.

                    If Canelo is really about celebrating Mexican holidays he can still do that on these dates with the full knowledge He would be sacrificing money by fighting in Mexico.

                    Whoever the biggest star in the sport is, he will likely get those dates. SO it isn't about "stealing" so much as it is "earning" the position. If Canelo becomes the biggest earner, he will get those dates anyway.

                    He isn't getting them now because Floyd generates more revenue for all parties involved.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      There's a reason Robert Guerrero was chosen as the opponent and not Devon Alexander who was initially put out as "the frontrunner" by Floyd and had a world title. What did Guerrero have? Not hard to figure out.
                      Alexander was considered a frontrunner by who? The media? Not too many of them have an in on Floyd's opponents. In fact, they're wrong most of the time.

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