Debunking myths 101. Cotto did better than anyone (or most) against Floyd

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  • Shpacman
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    #31
    Originally posted by HMICHMIC
    Guerrero landed more then cotto on Mayweather and never once was Guerrero in danger of being stopped where cotto was on ***** street.

    Thats it, nothing more to discuss. /END THREAD
    Good old compubox, I guess?

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    • Hype job
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      #32
      Originally posted by PBP
      The bargaining stage

      "Let's compare gifs"

      You can see the mark on Pac's shoulder! He was injured and still managed to pull off a close either way type bout!

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      • Derranged
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        #33
        "Rewatched the fight on mute and scored it 114-114"

        Try watching the fight without your head up your ass. Granted Pacs poor performance was largely due to his shoulder but the fact remains that Floyd clearly won and the fight was not close .

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        • jcpryor
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          #34
          Pacquiao put on a defensive master
          class? Wtf?

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          • fvanesbeck
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            #35
            Originally posted by Hype job
            First of all, he didn't. Second of all, he didn't, third of all he is too hittable and landed mainly power jabs. Cotto did worse than Maidana and Pac.

            Cotto's defence isn't good enough, he's too stationary, has no upper body/head movement and is too slow for Floyd, he cuts the ring off well though I'd give him that.

            There's a very strong anti Pacquiao sentiment on here, because he didn't fight a certain way he doesn't get credit. Truth is Pacquiao put on a defensive masterclass in there and for the most part took away Floyd's right hand, something very hard to do!

            Cotto does no better in the rematch. People are swayed with Floyd, the opponent has to do something "fight his fight" throw dozens of punches. You'll never get credit for making Floyd miss and countering him, because he's assumed to win every fight he doesn't get pressured non stop in.

            These are the facts!
            You lost me there. Compubox had Maywearher landing 48% of his power shots. In what world is that a "defensive masterclass"?

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            • SkillspayBills
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              #36
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza


              Booty Dew is defintely up there with Rath, Spoon, God Free and the other few on the butthurt scale.

              The vast majority have disssappeared but these guys are still fighting the fight

              The guy who compared them to the Japanese who still thought the war was going on after it ended is literally a perfect analogy.
              That was ME! In the Mayweather-Pacquiao thread lol

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                #37
                Hype you can stop with the damage control.. Officially, Pacquiao lost. You can't make Floyd fans see anything else. Injury doesn't count, compubox lies don't count, close rounds don't count, 5 years don't count. All they see is 10-2.

                You're fighting a useless battle. If you still gonna be on the May-Pac issue, I suggest encouraging a rematch next May which should happen once Pac heals.

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                • fvanesbeck
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
                  Hype you can stop with the damage control.. Officially, Pacquiao lost. You can't make Floyd fans see anything else. Injury doesn't count, compubox lies don't count, close rounds don't count, 5 years don't count. All they see is 10-2.

                  You're fighting a useless battle. If you still gonna be on the May-Pac issue, I suggest encouraging a rematch next May which should happen once Pac heals.
                  The rematch would be pointless. I didn't realise it until they were actually in the ring together but it's not a competitive fight. The only time it ever would've been was around 2009/10. Manny has declined too much.

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                  • mneronava2k
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Hype job
                    First of all, he didn't. Second of all, he didn't, third of all he is too hittable and landed mainly power jabs. Cotto did worse than Maidana and Pac.

                    Cotto's defence isn't good enough, he's too stationary, has no upper body/head movement and is too slow for Floyd, he cuts the ring off well though I'd give him that.

                    There's a very strong anti Pacquiao sentiment on here, because he didn't fight a certain way he doesn't get credit. Truth is Pacquiao put on a defensive masterclass in there and for the most part took away Floyd's right hand, something very hard to do!

                    Cotto does no better in the rematch. People are swayed with Floyd, the opponent has to do something "fight his fight" throw dozens of punches. You'll never get credit for making Floyd miss and countering him, because he's assumed to win every fight he doesn't get pressured non stop in.

                    These are the facts!
                    I was ready to agree with you; but you have it all wrong. Cotto was in the fight, but I think he lost nearly every round, and people give him far too much credit. Cotto did have success when he cut off the ring, used volume punching and finished combinations with a jab before May could reset. Manny was supposed to do that (and win). I even picked Manny, and rooted for him. But Floyd's defense was fantastic and he hit manny at will. Manny looked like Manny from the third Marquez fight (the one where he was outboxed). Minus the activity.

                    Cotto exceeded expectations and didnt disappoint. Most people look out of sorts and out classed when fighting Floyd. (canelo, manny, Guerrero,). Cotto was game all fight...but he was shut out for the most part. His performance is overrated.

                    I had Maidana squeaking by May in the their first fight. May had problems with Maidana's physicality, awkwardness, power. His awkwardness was the X factor once May figured him out late I knew it was going to be a breeze in fight 2. Cotto doesn't really deserve a fight two
                    Last edited by mneronava2k; 06-07-2015, 05:33 PM.

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                    • b00g13man
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by SilverMiles
                      You can say Cotto did better than Manny against Floyd but Cotto also did better than Floyd against Manny.

                      Mayweather is like a video game boss, you have to deplete his health before the timer runs out. No decisions, no even rounds, no draws. If he's still standing at the end he automatically wins.

                      But based on real boxing rules the fight was close and Manny outboxed Floyd for long stretches in the fight.
                      Loooooooool. Cotto did better against #48 than Floyd? How? He ****ing got wrecked. Did you bother putting any thought into this post?

                      I won't even bother commenting on the rest of it.

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