Comments Thread For: Team Golovkin: To Keep WBC Belt, Cotto Must Make Deal

[Mr. Philadel]

Cotto should just drop the strap and let GGG fight Joe Blow for it and couple of crumbs...Cotto is too small for the weight class...he made history and millions of dollars in the sport...after the Nelo fight he should do one more and hang'em up...NOTHING left to prove

GGG can unify and then go up and get his lunch money tooken by SOG...and then EVERYONE will get what they want...the Golovkin Girl Gang can celebrate their unified champ...the Cotto Crew can celebrate the Boricuan ****er's HOF induction and the SOG Gods can have fun watching Ward teach GGG the abc's to set up the next fight of the century...SOG vs Krusher

[ИATAS]

The sad reality for GGG is that anybody with sense, knows that Cotto is NOT a MW. Chavez Sr, Roy Jones, Kellerman etc So for GGG to kid himself that beating Cotto makes him a "MW" legend is a bit delusional. I would respect GGG more if he just admitted it... "I want MONEY!" But this claim of wanting to "unify" when the belt holder is a 153lb 34 year old Cotto, is just not gonna cut it.


"Cotto, do not fight GGG above 154lbs" ~ Chavez Sr.

Golovkin is just doing his job. His job is to be the best middleweight on the planet. Cotto has the WBC/lindeal belt and GGG is mandatory. That's the bottom line. It's very simple - if Cotto isn't a middleweight, then he shouldn't have the middleweight belt and shouldn't be defending it against middleweights. But he is. Cotto should either drop the belt or man up. We all know the only reason he's keeping the belt is to have leverage when negotiating with Canelo/Floyd. That's it. Which of course sucks for the actual middleweights that are deserving of the chance to fight for it. He's keeping the belt hostage and that's why there is a bit of a backlash.

And it's not like Cotto vs Golovkin is some no money fight - it would be huge, certainly one of the biggest fights in all of boxing right now. We all understand a Canelo fight would be bigger and obviously Floyd but that's it.

[SteveM]

The sad reality for GGG is that anybody with sense, knows that Cotto is NOT a MW. Chavez Sr, Roy Jones, Kellerman etc So for GGG to kid himself that beating Cotto makes him a "MW" legend is a bit delusional. I would respect GGG more if he just admitted it... "I want MONEY!" But this claim of wanting to "unify" when the belt holder is a 153lb 34 year old Cotto, is just not gonna cut it.


"Cotto, do not fight GGG above 154lbs" ~ Chavez Sr.

Your very name exudes extreme lack of respect so who cares what you respect or don't respect and who needs your respect - certainly not GGG and as others have said before I doubt Cotto gives 2 ****s for his fan boys like you, he is so far removed from you it's not even funny.
Are you in GGG's mind? How do you know if GGG thinks that beating Cotto will make him a middleweight legend. Stop making ****e up.
Of course GGG wants money. He's said he'd go up to fight Froch or Chavez (and Ward if he can bring some money to the table and/or lower his insane demands) or down to fight Floyd. If Lara wants to fight GGG he needs to take a leaf out of Martin Murray's book and declare that he is moving up to 160 because there is no money in a Lara fight so why bust a ball trying to get down to 154 if there is no reward? So of course GGG is fighting for money, which pro fighter isn't doe?
If you jump into a tiger's den and stand over the food don't expect that you won't be seen as food too.

[Beater_of_ass]

Actually yeah it does. It's no different when Bernard Hopkins wanted to unify, but couldn't do to boxing politics. He entertained the idea of fighting guys bigger/smaller if the money was right, they never happened but Hopkins kept on marching towards his goal of unification and it happened, against Keith Holmes and then Trinidad of course.

So yes, it's perfectly fine and possible to want to unify and also want bigger names/more money. In fact, that's what every fighter should be doing. Golovkin has made it clear unifying 160 is important to him, not sure why you wouldn't believe him.

So because Bernard beat up on a guy in his 3rd weightclass GGG can too? Hopkins was at least an underdog vs Tito, GGG would be a far and away favorite against Cotto. Let me put it this way. If there was a mechanic and he could do an engine swap for $5,000 but another guy is offering $25,000, I'm not going to tell the mechanic to help the guy who came in first. I'm going to tell him to get paid. It's not boxing, it's simply a philosophy of life. I don't see what's so wrong about being paid as much as you can for the job you do.

If you're okay with a guy basically fighting bums until he gets a big fight, good for you. I find more sack and skill in moving up in weight. Call me a new school boxing fan, whatever you want to call me but maximum paychecks have ALWAYS been boxing. Is there any sport that doesn't revolve around money? Is there anything in life not affected by money? No, but we have to make boxing NOT about that for some reason. If you're dealing with reality though, you're biased.

[Jubei]

Your very name exudes extreme lack of respect so who cares what you respect or don't respect and who needs your respect - certainly not GGG and as others have said before I doubt Cotto gives 2 ****s for his fan boys like you, he is so far removed from you it's not even funny.
Are you in GGG's mind? How do you know if GGG thinks that beating Cotto will make him a middleweight legend. Stop making ****e up.
Of course GGG wants money. He's said he'd go up to fight Froch or Chavez (and Ward if he can bring some money to the table and/or lower his insane demands) or down to fight Floyd. If Lara wants to fight GGG he needs to take a leaf out of Martin Murray's book and declare that he is moving up to 160 because there is no money in a Lara fight so why bust a ball trying to get down to 154 if there is no reward? So of course GGG is fighting for money, which pro fighter isn't doe?
If you jump into a tiger's den and stand over the food don't expect that you won't be seen as food too.

Quoted for Truth.

Why can't more people have such common sense?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Erislandy Lara, who will fight him at 160 !

It would be Golovkins best win.

I dont buy the " everyone is ducking me " excuse, that is bullshht.

Golovkin called out everyone from 154-168, now we can see that was hype.

Golovkins best win is Geale, despite fighting at MW for 9 years.

Cotto equaled that win, after fighting at MW for 5 minutes.

Haven't you been around too long to fall for marketing hype like that ?

Surely Golovkin could have crafted a better resume to date, he is clearly very well-managed, and is clearly not moving very fast.

BTW, I like Cotto, but he is nowhere near my favorite fighter, and I dont get "invested" like others do on this site..... I definitely agree that Cotto should fight at 160 or drop the belt..... but he is a legend, so he can fight whoever he likes..... Canelo is obviously next.

The lineal " title " is rubbish..... the lineal "champ" is just the man who beat the man, and nothing more..... the last 5x CONSECUTIVE lineal middleweight champions were NOT the best fighters at 160 when they were ranked.

There is no "obligation", with "lineal"..... you made that shht up

Who, in your opinion, is currently the best light-heavy?

Come on man, you have been around too long to get hung-up on worthless accolades..... maybe it was relevant once, but not now.

Actually, it was not even relevant back in the old days, we did not have a lineal champ, because we had a real champ..... the additional ABC organisations created "lineal"..... I dont take any of that shht seriously because I know who the best fighter is/are in each division.

The WBC title should be more relevant, than a passing of the torch lineage..... but the WBC dont rank Klitschko in their top-10 at heavyweight..... so why should I take them, or any of those asshat organisations seriously?

I know whats up, I dont need them muddying the waters within boxing for a sanctioning fee.

You are an insider, so there are legal/professional issues for you to consider..... I am an ex-fighter/fan, I dont give a fcuk about a worthless ABC body who cares more about sanctioning fees than they do about the fighters.

What is so special about Lara calling out anyone? Hes done it before, then, he crapped himself during the fight. Nobody wants to see that again.

[Beater_of_ass]

Golovkin is just doing his job. His job is to be the best middleweight on the planet. Cotto has the WBC/lindeal belt and GGG is mandatory. That's the bottom line. It's very simple - if Cotto isn't a middleweight, then he shouldn't have the middleweight belt and shouldn't be defending it against middleweights. But he is. Cotto should either drop the belt or man up. We all know the only reason he's keeping the belt is to have leverage when negotiating with Canelo/Floyd. That's it. Which of course sucks for the actual middleweights that are deserving of the chance to fight for it. He's keeping the belt hostage and that's why there is a bit of a backlash.

And it's not like Cotto vs Golovkin is some no money fight - it would be huge, certainly one of the biggest fights in all of boxing right now. We all understand a Canelo fight would be bigger and obviously Floyd but that's it.

That's the only information that matters in boxing. When people come to accept this they'll realize how much easier it is to tolerate all the **** that goes on. When Cotto needs GGG he'll fight him. Like when Floyd needed Manny. Like when Floyd needed Canelo. Like when Oscar needed Manny and the list will go on and on.

[SteveM]

Cotto should just drop the strap and let GGG fight Joe Blow for it and couple of crumbs...Cotto is too small for the weight class...he made history and millions of dollars in the sport...after the Nelo fight he should do one more and hang'em up...NOTHING left to prove

GGG can unify and then go up and get his lunch money tooken by SOG...and then EVERYONE will get what they want...the Golovkin Girl Gang can celebrate their unified champ...the Cotto Crew can celebrate the Boricuan ****er's HOF induction and the SOG Gods can have fun watching Ward teach GGG the abc's to set up the next fight of the century...SOG vs Krusher

Good post mate. That is exactly what Cotto should do. I have no interest in how much money Cotto or Golovkin have now and I could care 2 ****s whether they have a good retirement or "deserve" an easy ride. I care about my family and friends and MY retirement and that is exactly what they care about too.
Boxing is entertainment and what does interest me is seeing the best fights get made and the best way to see that is to know who is 1,2,3 in a division which is difficult enough as it is with the ABC belt org.s and even more difficult if fighters sit on their belts and act like divas and disrespect the sport.
If SOG is going to own GGG so be it - I want to see it and find out. Get it on!

[Vasyl’s dad]

Cotto is smaller but that's his issue if he wants to fight in a division of bigger guys - fight your mandatories if you have a belt or for the love of God drop the damn thing - his only use for that belt is to entice Floyd into a rematch.
As for Canelo, if he is smaller it is marginal, Canelo comes in at 170 on fight night and Golovkin at 172/3. It's just that Canelo is still very young and can cut better.

I fully expect this to happen before a Canelo fight happens.

[Vasyl’s dad]

So because Bernard beat up on a guy in his 3rd weightclass GGG can too? Hopkins was at least an underdog vs Tito, GGG would be a far and away favorite against Cotto. Let me put it this way. If there was a mechanic and he could do an engine swap for $5,000 but another guy is offering $25,000, I'm not going to tell the mechanic to help the guy who came in first. I'm going to tell him to get paid. It's not boxing, it's simply a philosophy of life. I don't see what's so wrong about being paid as much as you can for the job you do.

If you're okay with a guy basically fighting bums until he gets a big fight, good for you. I find more sack and skill in moving up in weight. Call me a new school boxing fan, whatever you want to call me but maximum paychecks have ALWAYS been boxing. Is there any sport that doesn't revolve around money? Is there anything in life not affected by money? No, but we have to make boxing NOT about that for some reason. If you're dealing with reality though, you're biased.

You must not think much of Hagler then.