Why do people act like Floyd is in a league of his own?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #71
    Originally posted by BennyST
    Yep, and he'll often beat the guy who beat them and yet it won't matter. He should have actually fought the loser, the guy that got beat, instead of the winner, the champion, the guy that showed he was the best opponent by winning important fights.

    Really bizarre logic.

    "Floyd's a no good fraud because he didn't beat the guy that lost!"

    If he'd fought the loser instead of the winners, imagine how much **** he'd be getting from these same people for not having fought the guy that actually ****ing mattered and won instead of losing? Its bat**** crazy.
    Can you imagine if he fought Tszyu?

    "Well he beat a faded Tszyu!"

    Floyd was dying to make that fight. To say he ducked that is crazy and just misinformed.

    I also don't get this "he ducked all the elite pressure fighters!"

    Like whom? All that was named was Margarito.

    So how the hell is Margarito "elite" and Castillo isn't? Explain that one to me.

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      #72
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      Stevie Johnston, Winky Wright, Joel Cassamayor, Erislandy Lara to name a few.

      Its crystal clear I don't even dislike Floyd I just tell it how it is. He has always had the luxury of picking and choosing and throwing in stipulations to anybody he isn't entirely 100% on beating. He thinks a fighter has a 0.1% chance he'll take that away by making them wear big gloves, fight at a catchweight with a bent referee in a kingsize ring.
      That's just laughable.

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        #73
        Rigondeaux is many levels more skilled. And better boxer than Mayweather.

        Mayweather legacy is a myth.

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          #74
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Can you imagine if he fought Tszyu?

          "Well he beat a faded Tszyu!"

          Floyd was dying to make that fight. To say he ducked that is crazy and just misinformed.

          I also don't get this "he ducked all the elite pressure fighters!"

          Like whom? All that was named was Margarito.

          So how the hell is Margarito "elite" and Castillo isn't? Explain that one to me.
          I've never seen anyone with a resume close to this get criticise. It's baffling.

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            #75
            Originally posted by mezoomozaa
            Rigondeaux is many levels more skilled. And better boxer than Mayweather.
            Based on what exactly?

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              #76
              Originally posted by b00g13man
              Based on what exactly?
              Because they heard other people say it or they are basing everything off of the Donaire fight.

              People like to throw around terms like "technically skilled" but never post a breakdown of what makes Rigo more "technically skilled" than Mayweather. When you ask for clarification they answer "if you know boxing, you would know what I'm talking about" or "watch the Donaire fight."

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                #77
                Oh so defensive minded southpaws are the new boogiemen now?

                This is such a joke.

                Lara and Rigo have skill and technique, specially Rigo. But they get sloppy to a degree that Floyd never did. They get hit and dropped to a degree that Floyd never did. And I dont wanna hear **** about their comps because Floyd has blanketed guys who are far superior to the guys who dropped Lara and Rigo.

                Dont tell me about Casa. He was nice. Several levels below Floyd in every way, but he was nice. Floyd beat his bettors handily. What more do we want?

                What Floyd has above all these guys is adaptability, versatility, sharpness and focus.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by BennyST
                  Yep, and he'll often beat the guy who beat them and yet it won't matter. He should have actually fought the loser, the guy that got beat, instead of the winner, the champion, the guy that showed he was the best opponent by winning important fights.

                  Really bizarre logic.

                  "Floyd's a no good fraud because he didn't beat the guy that lost!"

                  If he'd fought the loser instead of the winners, imagine how much **** he'd be getting from these same people for not having fought the guy that actually ****ing mattered and won instead of losing? Its bat**** crazy.
                  Truth, people want him to fight guys after losses for some reason, but you know that if Floyd had fought the loser and not the winner people would have been all over him, in fact the one time he did do that was vs Judah after Judah had lost a fluke to Baldomir, Floyd was criticized roundly, so he fought Baldomir right after. Could you imagine the talk of ducking if he had fought Margarito instead of Baldomir?

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                  • BennyST
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Can you imagine if he fought Tszyu?

                    "Well he beat a faded Tszyu!"

                    Floyd was dying to make that fight. To say he ducked that is crazy and just misinformed.

                    I also don't get this "he ducked all the elite pressure fighters!"

                    Like whom? All that was named was Margarito.

                    So how the hell is Margarito "elite" and Castillo isn't? Explain that one to me.
                    The whole Margarita debacle is one of the biggest myths in boxing. Arum really spun that one out of his ass and people buy it hook, line and sinker because they're desperate to hold onto anything that'll give them ammunition. It's ****ing pathetic. They're like a bunch of little school girls desperate to ***** about the latest gossip.

                    The Tszyu fight probably would have happened, once again, if Tszyu hadn't lost. Floyd wanted it, it was the biggest fight at 140 by a country mile, there was nothing stopping it, except that Tszyu took a different fight that got him more money first.....and ****ing lost! So what's he meant to do? Fight 36 year old, inactive, injured Tszyu who just lost to a largely unknown Hatton? Yeah, that would go down well with his 'fans'. Then they'd be *****ing about that instead of saying "He ducked Tszyu and Margarito!"

                    It's always something.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by BennyST
                      The Tszyu fight probably would have happened, once again, if Tszyu hadn't lost. Floyd wanted it, it was the biggest fight at 140 by a country mile, there was nothing stopping it, except that Tszyu took a different fight that got him more money first.....and ****ing lost! So what's he meant to do? Fight 36 year old, inactive, injured Tszyu who just lost to a largely unknown Hatton? Yeah, that would go down well with his 'fans'. Then they'd be *****ing about that instead of saying "He ducked Tszyu and Margarito!"

                      It's always something.
                      Hatton was his mandatory iirc. Either way, he lost.

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