Floyds last fight in his prime?

[shadow-boxer]

So the general consensus is that he's been past prime from somewhere between 2005 and 2009. Yet here we are 6-10 years later, approaching 40 and he's still undefeated, beating the likes of Mosley (after he destroyed Margarito), Cotto, Pacquiao and Canelo along the way.

And people still want to question his greatness?

He is still in his prime. Reason why people are comparing him to great welters Leonard and Hearns who were still in their early/mid twenties at the time. After schooling Pac, they now want him to move up to middle for Golovkin.

[IronDanHamza]

Not as rapid as Pac's decline from 2010 onwards doe.

Wow.

A thread that has nothing to do with Pac, and you're in here still making excuses for him.

[b00g13man]

Wow.

A thread that has nothing to do with Pac, and you're in here still making excuses for him.

Par for the course.

[New England]

140 lbs, according to the flowmos.


"whatever we can to give floyd credit"

[New England]

Wow.

A thread that has nothing to do with Pac, and you're in here still making excuses for him.

i don't think it's "excuse making" to recognize that manny had the more difficult matchmaking in his career, particularly before he was a star, and was a smaller welterweight fighting bigger men during his run as a p4p fighter at WW

[jamel2004]

May's Prime

His prime was definitely against Marquez. His legs had more bounce and his speed was blazing. Even though people claimed he cheated with the weight clause, you noticed the proud Mexican warrior has never requested a rematch. That was May's pinnacle. The next fight against Mosley his legs were more grounded.

[b00g13man]

i don't think it's "excuse making" to recognize that manny had the more difficult matchmaking in his career, particularly before he was a star, and was a smaller welterweight fighting bigger men during his run as a p4p fighter at WW

The point is this thread isn't about #48.

[jamel2004]

Thank you,
I love as gonna say this also.
Gatti was the best he's ever been.
He fought a perfect fight.
simultaneous offense and defense, perfect punch placement, amazing intelligent combos, etc...

If there was ever a fight where I had to use to represent the perfect boxer, azz beatng, that would be it.
That performance should be taught is colleges, dissected in schools theoughout the world and recorded as a historic day.

I agree 100% The fight against Chico was a slaughter, but was a complete dissection. That was like watching Mozart perform in his prime. His boxing iq is 200. There is only one man who would've probably beat May(SSR). Other than that I think ring intelligence would get him last anyone else.

[New England]

The point is this thread isn't about #48.

does calling him #48 deflect from the fact that he's smaller than floyd, and floyd took the fight when manny was clearly past his prime?


assessments of floyd's resume will reflect these realities. the best fighters he faced at WW were all past their best.

cotto had taken two beatings, lost to trout within a year

mosley's ranking as the top WW was a mirage because of the margarito wraps scandal, and his likely use of wraps in the fight against cotto, which earned him the ranking

manny was out cold against marquez, and his legs had been deteriorating for years.

oscar got his orbital broken against steve forbes within a year of the floyd fight. he beat ricardo freaking mayorga prior to that. looking back prior to that, he was stopped by hopkins, got a gift decision against felix f#cking sturm.



TBE DOE!

[FeFist]

140 lbs, according to the flowmos.


"whatever we can to give floyd credit"

What's with pricks like you? People offering an opinion and you unnecessarily reducing it to them being *****s?
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I feel Mayweather would have been at his best at 140lb- combination of speed, power and endurance (with experience). His peak was probably against Hatton though: he would have had those attributes, although his power and endurance would get negated by bigger foes.

By the Ortiz fight, the dip in his athleticism began to show.