Pacquiao Clean Punches Against Mayweather

[SplitSecond]

That's the bottom line, if you think that Manny was nursing a bad shoulder in camp and he re-injured it in the fight, but never said anything to his corner I've got a bridge to sell you. No doubt he had surgery for something, but it was likely to clean up something that has been going on for years.

There is simply no way that Pacquiao hurt his shoulder and no one from his team said anything about it during or immediately after the fight, it took them going back to the dressing room to concoct that story. And it's the only thing they have to hold onto to try to get a 2nd fight because the 1st fight wasn't close.

Manny Pacquiao threw more rights than he threw lefts in that fight. Was his left shoulder injured too?

It's the same as it always is, fighters and their trainers talk about how they are going to swarm Mayweather and throw tons of punches, they never do.

Did you have a version that had the camera on Pacquiao's corner every round?
Maywether also threw alot more jabs than he did powershots in the Castillo fight. Despite just two days prior him not being able to throw a jab at all.

[Larry the boss]

@ those pitiful highlights in your sig.

I dont care what you think about my sig,the fight is over move on

[The Big Dunn]

Roach said Pacquiao told him inbetween rounds, Fortune said Pacquiao brought it up also in the corner. These were interviews where Fortune was at his gym and roach at his, two seperate gyms/locations. Unless right after the fight they came together and said "Look, if anybody asks, say he brought it up between rounds to make it more believable" "kay, freddie" *jumping highfive*
Why do you think they took off the weeks of hard training and sparring?
Why the anti-inflammatory and numbing medication?
The surgery and the surgeon? The sparring partner that said "yea, that's why he took 2 weeks off"?

Pacquiao said he didn't want to make any excuses. He didn't bring it up in the post fight interview, nor did he bring it up in the post fight press conference during his speech. Instead it was asked to him by a media member who heard about him being rejected a shot for a shoulder injury.

I never saw either say that. If that did happen, that would make it even more obvious he lied because he grabbed his biceps in the post fight presser and Roach never said anything of the sort in the post fight presser. Had this actually happened, Roach surely would have said so then.

That's not exactly what he said nor was that all he said.

Sorry, but how can you believe Manny's story with all the lies and conflicting stories you know have come from the camp regarding this?

Cramps was what we were told. That's why they brought the cream. Were they lying then as well? If so, why was this special cream needed?

Well the toradol was used to numb something, just not a shoulder injury. As Bob changed his story and pointed out Manny was "100% healthy" for the fight. Other than cheating, I don't know why he wanted the shot.

The surgery-yes makes the injury seem authentic. I just question this because this isn't the 1st time Bob has used his connections to get Manny unnecessary medical procedures (stiches last time).

[ADP02]

You are arguing because Floyd had an injury then Manny had one too. Just because Floyd had a legit shoulder injury almost 15 years ago doesn't mean Manny did May 2nd.

The differences are startling-Floyd actually tells his corner during the fight he hurt his shoulder, they ask about it, the announcers discuss it. Floyd mentions it in the post fight interview.

Manny never says anything, the corner never asks him about it (please, do not try and pretend Roach asking him are you ok was about the shoulder as you have done before.), he never says anything in the post fight interview, then in the post figt presser he grabs his biceps first and then has to be told by his adviser to say shoulder. The promoter and trainer can't agree when the "injury" really happened.

Manny just wasn't good enough. Why is that so hard for you to admit?

Floyd cries every time and that is enough for you. "Im blind", "a shark ate my hand off", "my shoulder".

Manny had prescribed pain killers that Usada concurred on and so did the commissions. When? BEFORE the fight. Manny was operated on by well known doctors. It's all there.

As for the corner, Mannys team already knew about. So they all knew so not much needed to be said. So that is why the comments didnt have to be about whats hurting and where. Plus the cameras were not always in their corner listening in.

All those things you all said about manny should not be able to do if really was injured, Floyd did too in the Castillo fight.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd cries every time and that is enough for you. "Im blind", "a shark ate my hand off", "my shoulder".

Manny had prescribed pain killers that Usada concurred on and so did the commissions. When? BEFORE the fight. Manny was operated on by well known doctors. It's all there.

As for the corner, Mannys team already knew about. So they all knew so not much needed to be said. So that is why the comments didnt have to be about whats hurting and where. Plus the cameras were not always in their corner listening in.

All those things you all said about manny should not be able to do if really was injured, Floyd did too in the Castillo fight.

dude, he wen to the commission about 90 minutes before the fight, you really think that was enough time?

So they all knew, but didn't say anything and Roach kept telling him to throw combos yet he knew his fighter had a shoulder injury? Come on dude, you think that makes sense?

Look, we are not going to agree so this is pointless. I guess seeing Manny lose so easily to a fighter you don't respect makes it too hard for you to acknowledge Floyd won and proved he was the better man.

[SplitSecond]

I never saw either say that. If that did happen, that would make it even more obvious he lied because he grabbed his biceps in the post fight presser and Roach never said anything of the sort in the post fight presser. Had this actually happened, Roach surely would have said so then.

That's not exactly what he said nor was that all he said.

Sorry, but how can you believe Manny's story with all the lies and conflicting stories you know have come from the camp regarding this?

Cramps was what we were told. That's why they brought the cream. Were they lying then as well? If so, why was this special cream needed?

Well the toradol was used to numb something, just not a shoulder injury. As Bob changed his story and pointed out Manny was "100% healthy" for the fight. Other than cheating, I don't know why he wanted the shot.

The surgery-yes makes the injury seem authentic. I just question this because this isn't the 1st time Bob has used his connections to get Manny unnecessary medical procedures (stiches last time).

Wtf are you talking about? Watch the video I posted.

[The Big Dunn]

Wtf are you talking about? Watch the video I posted.

I watched the post fight presser a number of times. I don't need to see it again. Koncz had to tell Manny "shoulder" FFS. Bob/Freddy with 2 different dates of the "injury". Geez.

Like I told ADOP2, we are just never going to agree so its pointless.

Manny lost by a wide margin to a fighter you hate and do not respect. Manny lost because he isn't as good as Floyd. It's too bad some of you just can't bring yourselves to acknowledge it and move on.

[IR0NFIST]

Dude u are full ******....list the number of NFL players who died right after a hit compared to boxers dying in a fight or rushed to hospital and died.

This moron trying to compare a football players entire career, where for a boxer it can be one bout.

90% of boxers...let me know when NFL reaches that number

The American Association of Neurological Surgeons say 90 percent of boxers suffer some kind of brain injury while boxing. Because of these brain injuries, boxers are more prone to mental deterioration during their later years that can lead to Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s.

There are too many incidents of football players who have died on the field, so I'm going to limit my list to 10 names.

• Paul Becker - Fractured skull
• Howard Glenn - Neck injury
• Dave Bliss - Head injury
• Vernon Belyea - Spine injury
• Earl Wilson - Neck injury
• John Zola - Blood clot followed by in-game tackle
• Hoot Wilson - Brain hemorrhage
• Stone Johnson - Neck injury
• Ralph Wilson - Brain hemorrhage
• Theodore York - Pneumonia followed by in-game rib fracture

Let me reiterate that those football players have died ON THE FIELD, not following a game, or two days later, or a week later. Now that I've provided you with a list, it's your turn to provide me with a list of boxers who have died IN THE RING.

Btw, I'm still waiting on your list of boxers who have been diagnosed with or suffer from chronic traumatic brain injuries.

Here's a list of NFL athletes who suffer from brain related injuries - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...encephalopathy

[IR0NFIST]

I watched the post fight presser a number of times. I don't need to see it again. Koncz had to tell Manny "shoulder" FFS. Bob/Freddy with 2 different dates of the "injury". Geez.

Like I told ADOP2, we are just never going to agree so its pointless.

Manny lost by a wide margin to a fighter you hate and do not respect. Manny lost because he isn't as good as Floyd. It's too bad some of you just can't bring yourselves to acknowledge it and move on.

Fraud fans when you mention Pacquiao's shoulder injury.

[VERSION1 (V1)]

There are too many incidents of football players who have died on the field, so I'm going to limit my list to 10 names.

• Paul Becker - Fractured skull
• Howard Glenn - Neck injury
• Dave Bliss - Head injury
• Vernon Belyea - Spine injury
• Earl Wilson - Neck injury
• John Zola - Blood clot followed by in-game tackle
• Hoot Wilson - Brain hemorrhage
• Stone Johnson - Neck injury
• Ralph Wilson - Brain hemorrhage
• Theodore York - Pneumonia followed by in-game rib fracture

Let me reiterate that those football players have died ON THE FIELD, not following a game, or two days later, or a week later. Now that I've provided you with a list, it's your turn to provide me with a list of boxers who have died IN THE RING.

Btw, I'm still waiting on your list of boxers who have been diagnosed with or suffer from chronic traumatic brain injuries.

Here's a list of NFL athletes who suffer from brain related injuries - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...encephalopathy

when did these players die never of them before