Pacquiao Clean Punches Against Mayweather

[SplitSecond]

Canelo wasn't prime, he's alot more powerful now, and should be getting smarter, unless he lets himself go, he'll hit his prime at 26-27. He's a smart kid and he's already fought some great competition i.e the mother***ing p4p king and a cuban runner.

Pacquiao wasn't prime at 23 neither, he hit his prime around 27-28 whenever he learnt how to box more rather than just use his youthful vigour to overwhelm people.

A guy like Floyd is a little different, since he had substantial experience from an extensive amateur background where he faced many champion calibre opposition. He'd have found his groove younger. Although he was fairly complete, you're always learning, his prime was also probably later 20's, where a person is reaching peak strength.

[The Big Dunn]

Canelo and Manny were held in very high esteem by NSB posters prior to fighting Floyd. Most thought both had a great chance to win and were live underdogs. A good number of posters picked both to beat Floyd.

After both got beaten by such a wide margin, after both got their offense neutralized in embarrassing fashion, those same posters are now revisionists.

At what point do these posters become adults and just say-Floyd won clearly- and move on to other things?

Why are they still debating results that really do not warrant any more discussion?

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who has he fought after that like floyd... floyd and pac are on diffrent leaves then anyother fighter of this era


and just because he did not fight a name fighter before dose not mean he was not in his prime

Even a fighter such as manny was not prime at 22-23.

The fight before Floyd's the common theme was its a fight that should answer questions about Canelo and the relatively unknown Trout. After the fight all we heard was that Canelo has issues that need to be resolved and that he is still relatively a green fighter. Showtime brought this up to and lack of experience against certain level of fighters and that he was pushed too soon to fight Floyd.




That is not a definition of a prime fighter.

[ADP02]

Canelo and Manny were held in very high esteem by NSB posters prior to fighting Floyd. Most thought both had a great chance to win and were live underdogs. A good number of posters picked both to beat Floyd.

After both got beaten by such a wide margin, after both got their offense neutralized in embarrassing fashion, those same posters are now revisionists.

At what point do these posters become adults and just say-Floyd won clearly- and move on to other things?

Why are they still debating results that really do not warrant any more discussion?

Before the fight was announcef. I pointed out that Canelo was relatively green and not ready for Floyd. Also nobody expected Canelo would need to drain down to 152.

Manny fight was closer that Floyd fans are saying. The pace I would agree was more of a Floyd fight pace but that was expected when one fighter does not engage. Also Some of that has to do with this fight happening after the Marquez KO. Some due to their age and as said some due to Floyd's style.

But that is what swayed the Vegas judges. Round 3 was supposed to be Mannnys but since it wasn't the usual high paced high volume punching fight they gave it incorrectly to Floyd. Maybe that is what happened in the Bradley 1 fight too.

Oh yeah. Floyd was also fighting a one armed Manny.

[The Big Dunn]

Before the fight was announcef. I pointed out that Canelo was relatively green and not ready for Floyd. Also nobody expected Canelo would need to drain down to 152.

Manny fight was closer that Floyd fans are saying. The pace I would agree was more of a Floyd fight pace but that was expected when one fighter does not engage. Also Some of that has to do with this fight happening after the Marquez KO. Some due to their age and as said some due to Floyd's style.

But that is what swayed the Vegas judges. Round 3 was supposed to be Mannnys but since it wasn't the usual high paced high volume punching fight they gave it incorrectly to Floyd. Maybe that is what happened in the Bradley 1 fight too.

Oh yeah. Floyd was also fighting a one armed Manny.

A very small but obnoxiously vocal group of pac fans keep suggesting the fight was close or Manny was injured just because they need to try and find ways to make themselves feel ok but that doesn't make it the case.

Canelo wasn't too green, he just wasn't good enough, Manny wasn't either. It would be refreshing if posters just admitted that and moved on. Not every fighter can be the best.

Is it really a big deal that these boxers are not as good as Floyd?

[Calabis]

Dumb and dumber.

@Calabis Other than Muhammad Ali, can you provide me with a list of boxers who have been diagnosed with or suffer from chronic traumatic brain injuries? I guarantee you it pales in comparison to the NFL.

Here's a list of NFL athletes who suffer from brain related injuries - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...encephalopathy

Btw, that list is still incomplete.

Dude u are full ******....list the number of NFL players who died right after a hit compared to boxers dying in a fight or rushed to hospital and died.

This moron trying to compare a football players entire career, where for a boxer it can be one bout.

90% of boxers...let me know when NFL reaches that number

The American Association of Neurological Surgeons say 90 percent of boxers suffer some kind of brain injury while boxing. Because of these brain injuries, boxers are more prone to mental deterioration during their later years that can lead to Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s.

[Eff Pandas]

These threads are kinda hilarious. I don't think some of the non-Mayweather fans get that its ****ing amazing how hard it is to hit Mayweather cleanly that they get excited about it happening at all. Most cats are getting hit cleanly in ever fight. Its amazing that Mayweather gets hit so seldom cleanly & it took the #2 P4P guy to even get this many gifs to post. Mayweather definitely will never be respected as an active fighter as much as he will once he's a retired fighter.

[SplitSecond]

A very small but obnoxiously vocal group of pac fans keep suggesting the fight was close or Manny was injured just because they need to try and find ways to make themselves feel ok but that doesn't make it the case.

Canelo wasn't too green, he just wasn't good enough, Manny wasn't either. It would be refreshing if posters just admitted that and moved on. Not every fighter can be the best.

Is it really a big deal that these boxers are not as good as Floyd?

Floyd whinged about a supposed rotator cuff injury in a fight alot of people thought he lost, he got surgery, had a rematch and won convincingly the second time.

Fight was closer than any Floyd boy will admit, that's a given. I'd like to see a rematch with healthy combatants to settle it. Nothing wrong with that.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd whinged about a supposed rotator cuff injury in a fight alot of people thought he lost, he got surgery, had a rematch and won convincingly the second time.

Fight was closer than any Floyd boy will admit, that's a given. I'd like to see a rematch with healthy combatants to settle it. Nothing wrong with that.

The differences between the 2 injuries are startling. I will not list them all but we know in Floyd's case it was a real injury. In Manny's case, lets just say Floyd didn't grab his biceps before his adviser told him shoulder.

You are one of those members of the vocal minority. Other than you guys, who thought the fight was close? You'd have a point if there was a legit SD or MD or Manny had any real offense outside of rounds 4 and 6.

Everything is already settled, again except for the vocal minority. Why is it so hard to just admit Floyd is better?

Is it really that important to you to pretend this fight was close to try and justify a rematch?

Do you really think a rematch will produce a different outcome?

[ADP02]

A very small but obnoxiously vocal group of pac fans keep suggesting the fight was close or Manny was injured just because they need to try and find ways to make themselves feel ok but that doesn't make it the case.

Canelo wasn't too green, he just wasn't good enough, Manny wasn't either. It would be refreshing if posters just admitted that and moved on. Not every fighter can be the best.

Is it really a big deal that these boxers are not as good as Floyd?

Floyd and his fans used the same rotator cuff injury whenever Floyd poor performance against Castillo comes up. Floyd fans have said that for over a decade now. Yet when someone who actually had surgery Floyd fans don't even believe manny was injured. Yet all it took was for Floyd to say it and that was enough for the same Floyd fans.