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  • I'm interested in a rematch. It's still the biggest fight to be made. If you don't want to see it, then don't watch. Simple as that.

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      The differences between the 2 injuries are startling. I will not list them all but we know in Floyd's case it was a real injury. In Manny's case, lets just say Floyd didn't grab his biceps before his adviser told him shoulder.

      You are one of those members of the vocal minority. Other than you guys, who thought the fight was close? You'd have a point if there was a legit SD or MD or Manny had any real offense outside of rounds 4 and 6.

      Everything is already settled, again except for the vocal minority. Why is it so hard to just admit Floyd is better?

      Is it really that important to you to pretend this fight was close to try and justify a rematch?

      Do you really think a rematch will produce a different outcome?
      Why is Floyd's injury more believable?

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      • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Floyd and his fans used the same rotator cuff injury whenever Floyd poor performance against Castillo comes up. Floyd fans have said that for over a decade now. Yet when someone who actually had surgery Floyd fans don't even believe manny was injured. Yet all it took was for Floyd to say it and that was enough for the same Floyd fans.
        You are arguing because Floyd had an injury then Manny had one too. Just because Floyd had a legit shoulder injury almost 15 years ago doesn't mean Manny did May 2nd.

        The differences are startling-Floyd actually tells his corner during the fight he hurt his shoulder, they ask about it, the announcers discuss it. Floyd mentions it in the post fight interview.

        Manny never says anything, the corner never asks him about it (please, do not try and pretend Roach asking him are you ok was about the shoulder as you have done before.), he never says anything in the post fight interview, then in the post figt presser he grabs his biceps first and then has to be told by his adviser to say shoulder. The promoter and trainer can't agree when the "injury" really happened.

        Manny just wasn't good enough. Why is that so hard for you to admit?

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        • Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
          Why is Floyd's injury more believable?
          See post to ADOP2 above.

          Prior to it being mentioned in the post fight presser, did you think Manny was injured at all during the fight? If so, what made you think he was?
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-02-2015, 10:58 AM.

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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            Floyd and his fans used the same rotator cuff injury whenever Floyd poor performance against Castillo comes up. Floyd fans have said that for over a decade now. Yet when someone who actually had surgery Floyd fans don't even believe manny was injured. Yet all it took was for Floyd to say it and that was enough for the same Floyd fans.
            yet just like the them you seem to belive one and not the other

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            • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              You are arguing because Floyd had an injury then Manny had one too. Just because Floyd had a legit shoulder injury almost 15 years ago doesn't mean Manny did May 2nd.

              The differences are startling-Floyd actually tells his corner during the fight he hurt his shoulder, they ask about it, the announcers discuss it. Floyd mentions it in the post fight interview.

              Manny never says anything, the corner never asks him about it (please, do not try and pretend Roach asking him are you ok was about the shoulder as you have done before.), he never says anything in the post fight interview, then in the post figt presser he grabs his biceps first and then has to be told by his adviser to say shoulder. The promoter and trainer can't agree when the "injury" really happened.

              Manny just wasn't good enough. Why is that so hard for you to admit?
              That's the bottom line, if you think that Manny was nursing a bad shoulder in camp and he re-injured it in the fight, but never said anything to his corner I've got a bridge to sell you. No doubt he had surgery for something, but it was likely to clean up something that has been going on for years.

              There is simply no way that Pacquiao hurt his shoulder and no one from his team said anything about it during or immediately after the fight, it took them going back to the dressing room to concoct that story. And it's the only thing they have to hold onto to try to get a 2nd fight because the 1st fight wasn't close.

              Manny Pacquiao threw more rights than he threw lefts in that fight. Was his left shoulder injured too?

              It's the same as it always is, fighters and their trainers talk about how they are going to swarm Mayweather and throw tons of punches, they never do.

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              • Originally posted by Johnny2x2x View Post
                That's the bottom line, if you think that Manny was nursing a bad shoulder in camp and he re-injured it in the fight, but never said anything to his corner I've got a bridge to sell you. No doubt he had surgery for something, but it was likely to clean up something that has been going on for years.

                There is simply no way that Pacquiao hurt his shoulder and no one from his team said anything about it during or immediately after the fight, it took them going back to the dressing room to concoct that story. And it's the only thing they have to hold onto to try to get a 2nd fight because the 1st fight wasn't close.

                Manny Pacquiao threw more rights than he threw lefts in that fight. Was his left shoulder injured too?

                It's the same as it always is, fighters and their trainers talk about how they are going to swarm Mayweather and throw tons of punches, they never do.
                a floyd fan compubox counter


                Left hand thrown - 89

                right hand thrown 96

                Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

                Floyd fan and his argument

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  You are arguing because Floyd had an injury then Manny had one too. Just because Floyd had a legit shoulder injury almost 15 years ago doesn't mean Manny did May 2nd.

                  The differences are startling-Floyd actually tells his corner during the fight he hurt his shoulder, they ask about it, the announcers discuss it. Floyd mentions it in the post fight interview.

                  Manny never says anything, the corner never asks him about it (please, do not try and pretend Roach asking him are you ok was about the shoulder as you have done before.), he never says anything in the post fight interview, then in the post figt presser he grabs his biceps first and then has to be told by his adviser to say shoulder. The promoter and trainer can't agree when the "injury" really happened.

                  Manny just wasn't good enough. Why is that so hard for you to admit?
                  Roach said Pacquiao told him inbetween rounds, Fortune said Pacquiao brought it up also in the corner. These were interviews where Fortune was at his gym and roach at his, two seperate gyms/locations. Unless right after the fight they came together and said "Look, if anybody asks, say he brought it up between rounds to make it more believable" "kay, freddie" *jumping highfive*
                  Why do you think they took off the weeks of hard training and sparring?
                  Why the anti-inflammatory and numbing medication?
                  The surgery and the surgeon? The sparring partner that said "yea, that's why he took 2 weeks off"?

                  Pacquiao said he didn't want to make any excuses. He didn't bring it up in the post fight interview, nor did he bring it up in the post fight press conference during his speech. Instead it was asked to him by a media member who heard about him being rejected a shot for a shoulder injury.

                  Last edited by SplitSecond; 06-02-2015, 11:25 AM.

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                  • damn ya'll still on this?

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                    • Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
                      damn ya'll still on this?
                      @ those pitiful highlights in your sig.

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