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  • Cinci Champ
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    #21
    Originally posted by PK3434
    I listened to the whole interview. Loeffler was explaining that Ward would demand a big purse for that fight and obviously Golovkin would too, so it would have to be a PPV fight as those purse demands wouldn't fit into the budget for HBO...and Ward doesn't have enough buzz right now to make it a lucrative ppv fight. I would love to this fight, but what hes actually saying (not just the headline) makes sense.
    lol u dont think jay z would pay extra to make that fight happen?

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      #22
      Originally posted by NEETzsche
      it's obvious that the fight will happen when golovkin is the undisputed middleweight champion and ward is once more the undisputed super middleweight champion


      we'll see. he's clearly implying that this fight will need to be a ppv. HBO already pays a lot for a golovkin fight. they paid ward close to 2 million for an edwin rodgiruez fight, and he'll obviously want more for golovkin.



      as of right now, it probably wouldn't sell well.

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      • HEND
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        #23
        Jay-Z is a millionaire who was willing to paid for a Korobov vs Quillin fight 1,4 million. Now he is with Ward.
        But please tell us more about not enough money in Andre Ward.
        In Monroe there's enough money but not in Ward?
        I don't demand Golovkin to fight Ward at least not now in this situation I don't but hs promoter and Abel Sanchez need to stfu because every time they talk they think that they are the smart guys who can do the talking instead of their fighters but in reality they're only harmful to Golovkin's reputation.
        Last edited by HEND; 05-18-2015, 08:34 AM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Mr. Philadel
          not enough money?!?...what about the glory and respect?!?....SOG is the best boxer on the planet not named Floyd Mayweather Jr.....get the quack outta here with that money talk!!...SOG vs GGG is the new superfight in boxing!!

          No. It really isn't.

          The only guy who has nothing else to do at his division is Andre Ward. He defeated the #2 guy in Froch, and Froch wants no rematch. So naturally, fan match makers are looking for an opponent for him.

          GGG, on the other hand has plenty to do at 160. He still isn't THE CHAMP at Middleweight. There is another guy calling himself the real champ (Cotto), and he is also the third biggest superstar in Boxing behind Pac and Floyd. So GGG has incentive to stay at 160, Ward doesn't.

          There is also the premise that Ward has P4P type skill that are meant for climbing up through several weight classes, yet he hasn't moved up north once.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
            So Ward has to earn a shot at GGG?
            As funny as it sounds.....YES.

            Who's the one doing big ratings on HBO right now? Who's the one drawing 10k+ crowds to arena's right now? Who's the one with the momentum right now?

            Boxing is a what have you done for me lately sport, and the reality is, Ward has fallen off the map. Yes he's a a great fighter and I support him but he has to work his way back into the limelight before a fight between him and GGG can be an "event".

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              #26
              Originally posted by BoriBlaze1
              This is so funny! He keeps calling out smaller fighters, but he won't go up in weight to fight Ward, but he wants Mayweather, Cotto , and Canelo all to fight at 160. If he wants to money fights he has to go down or up in weight. Or fight Lara.
              NO, he really doesn't. Cotto is the champ in his division, and Miguel is the third biggest PPV star in Boxing. So that's a big money fight at Middleweight and it's logical to fight a champion in the same weight class.

              Here is how I view things: When GGG calls out Floyd, he has to do his part in moving down in weight to get that fight. If he were to fight Andre Ward, he still has to do his part and MOVE UP in weight to fight that fight.

              It's only Andre Ward (YET AGAIN) who doesn't have to do anything. Nothing is required of Andre (moving up or down in weight). He did this with Chad Dawson (the 175 champ) and now he would hypothetically do it with GGG (the 160 Title holder).

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                #27
                Originally posted by MPX309
                He'd make more money fighting Ward that Floyd.
                You're not serious are you?

                A flat fee type purse offered from Floyd would be bigger then a 50-50 split against Ward. 5% or 10% split in a Floyd fight would be bigger then a 60-40 split in GGG's favor against Ward.

                The old saying, owning 10% of something is better then owning 100% of nothing.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  GGG would be in a no win situation if he were to take on Ward asap. If he wins, he beat an inactive fighter who just returned to the sport after a long layoff. If he loses, he lost to an inactive fighter who just returned to the sport after a long layoff.

                  I would love to see this fight but I would like to see Ward create some buzz by beating a high profile opponent first in order to hype the matchup. Let him take his tuneup bout then fight someone noteworthy before taking on GGG.

                  I see many GGG haters asking why doesn't GGG move up to 168 to face Ward but aren't asking Ward to move up to 175 to face Kovalev.
                  Ward has beat several fighters of note. Its ggg that hasn't beat anyone of note. He has called out ward only to recant. He wants big money fights based off beating bums? One poster called him a bums beater lol. He has to be the most protected fighter in boxing at this point. His fan base should want to see him fight credible fighters.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                    Ward has beat several fighters of note. Its ggg that hasn't beat anyone of note. He has called out ward only to recant. He wants big money fights based off beating bums? One poster called him a bums beater lol. He has to be the most protected fighter in boxing at this point. His fan base should want to see him fight credible fighters.
                    Actually that was Ward. SOG sent the email to be read on HBO during Golovkin's fight that he was ready at anytime. Now that he's resovled his legal trouble he needs tune-ups...


                    Originally posted by HEND
                    Jay-Z is a millionaire who was willing to paid for a Korobov vs Quillin fight 1,4 million. Now he is with Ward.
                    But please tell us more about not enough money in Andre Ward.
                    In Monroe there's enough money but not in Ward?
                    I don't demand Golovkin to fight Ward at least not now in this situation I don't but hs promoter and Abel Sanchez need to stfu because every time they talk they think that they are the smart guys who can do the talking instead of their fighters but in reality they're only harmful to Golovkin's reputation.
                    Did you really just compare the Golovkin/Monroe purse to a Golovkin/Ward purse? Is Ward making the same money to fight Paul Smith that he'd be willing to take to fight Kovalev at 175?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Cinci Champ
                      lol u dont think jay z would pay extra to make that fight happen?
                      Originally posted by HEND
                      Jay-Z is a millionaire who was willing to paid for a Korobov vs Quillin fight 1,4 million. Now he is with Ward.
                      But please tell us more about not enough money in Andre Ward.
                      In Monroe there's enough money but not in Ward?

                      I don't demand Golovkin to fight Ward at least not now in this situation I don't but hs promoter and Abel Sanchez need to stfu because every time they talk they think that they are the smart guys who can do the talking instead of their fighters but in reality they're only harmful to Golovkin's reputation.
                      Read this:

                      Originally posted by Eastcoast
                      That's a call-out to RN that if they're willing to front the money this fight can happen sooner than later.
                      If Roc Nation want Ward to fight GGG next they can send Loefler an offer and it will happen. Roc could afford to pay for it, Loefler can't. So right now, the offer would have to come from Andre's side.

                      I'm sure the offer won't come. Not because I think Ward is scared of GGG, but because Roc know that they would lose money if they staged it now.

                      If they wait awhile it could become a much bigger fight that would make money for the promotors as well as the fighters.

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